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ekkm55
I read an issue of G&A that had a small piece on a shotgun stock that had a system to reduce recoil integrated inside the stock. Can someone tell me who manufactures this stock? I can't seem to find the issue that had the article in it.
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  • rockford
    quote:Originally posted by ekkm55
    I read an issue of G&A that had a small piece on a shotgun stock that had a system to reduce recoil integrated inside the stock. Can someone tell me who manufactures this stock? I can't seem to find the issue that had the article in it.


    For a time, Winchester had a Hydracoil system on some of their shotguns. Sounds similar to what you saw.

    Fred
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  • bobski
    hydra shock, counter coil, you name it...there are many out there. all are crap. i use to sell em and i stopped after i tried one! they do not promote good shooting practice. its like taking a perfect gun and turning it into a remington 11-48 or a browning A5 boing-boing. the biggest problem with those things is that in shotgunning, you are taught to pull the gun tight into your shoulder and get a good weld. but, since the contraption is spring and hydro controlled, you never really achieve a bone to gun lock up, meaning, you have a squishy area between the two. depending on how tight or loose you pull it, changes on every shot. and during recoil, the gun is actualy moving, throwing off sight alignment. so, say for instance on your first shot you got the thing pulled in tight. bang! now the gun moves and if you have lightened your grip and weld, the gun will move forward about and 1" until you pull it exactly back to the same place and with the same pressure. try doing that in 1 second perfectly! it cant be done! so that means youre shooting 2 shots with 2 different sight pictures. its like shooting a moving target from a moving vehicle! not me folks! its like holding a pogo stick! so, others will contend that you should allow the gizmo not to be pulled in tight and to let the thing do its job and allow it to pop back to full extention for every shot. great! watch how sloppy your gun swings because youre not holding it in tight to your shoulder! since a shotgun is suppose to be an extention of your eye, i dare anyone to try doing that and swing a gun without blowing sight alignment! even worse, i challenge anyone to switch guns in the middle of a season and try to apply that muscle memory to the new gun without one! it doesnt work. my 3200 1 of 100 has one on it and i kick myself for ruining my collectors grade gun every time i look at it, because someone told me it was the best thing since puffed rice! it cost me well over 500 bucks to have it bought and installed at the cost of a 6,000.00 ruined gun! never again! many shooters swear by them, and true, someones gun is someones gun, but come resale time, the field narrows and selling one becomes hard to do, except for the unexpecting, and the cycle continues. besides, a well built gun wont kick in the first place. putting a hydra/counter whatever coil just masks the flaw in the gun. take the money and buy a good gun instead. take note! stay away from them. just my opinion. anyone want to buy my 3200 skeet stock with a counter coil in it?

    former air operations officer SEAL Delivery Vehicle Team 2. former navy skeet team, navy rifle/pistol team member. co-owner skeetmaster tubes inc.. owner/operator professional shooting instruction.
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  • Alpine
    There are other types of recoil reduction. The one I prefer is located inside the stock, in the bolt hole and uses an inerita system. Generally no modifications are necessary, and normally a 2 pound reduction in felt recoil is obtained. The orginal beauty of the stock is maintained and when you sell the gun you can just remove the butt pad and take out the unit and put it in the next gun you buy.
    Here is a link to learn more:
    http://www.edwardsrecoilreducer.com/index.htm
    Do a lot of looking and reading before you buy.

    "If you ain't got pictures, I wasn't there."
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  • bobski
    internal recoil systems are different from what he was inquiring about. none the less, im sure he and others will enjoy the post.
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  • allechalley
    I'm wondering if you're thinking of the Benelli Nova with the recoil reducing option stock. A friend of mine had one of these guns for a short time. It definately needed something to calm it down.

    Ditto what bobski said. Best buy a well designed gun and at worst maybe a pachmyr decellerator pad.
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