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pagunrunner
Dad,
the stubby little gun is a Kalashikov "Krinkov" -- no stock, just a pistol grip and 30 rds of 7.62 x 39 mm. Use it for a car gun as it is full auto and easy to handle. It's the same weapon that is in all the bin Laden photos as a prop. I used one in Pakistan/Afghanistan. Can hit man size targets from the hip at 50 m on full auto (4-6 rd bursts), so it's a good little weapon if you practice with it.

The duty rifle slung across my back in one of the photos is a Bushmaster "M-4" carbine in 5.56mm /.223 and I also carry a SIG SAUER 226 9mm pistol.
That's what I usually have. Pistol is always on my hip, 24/7.

Twin barrel gun behind us is ZSU-23-2 Soviet 23 mm anti-aircraft cannon. a real persuader if anyone tries to run the gate. If any one is asking we just picked up 6 PKM 7.62 belt fed light machine guns for extra firepower. Now have an additional 60 US Army troops on our perimeter. Mostly kids.

all is well here. writing this from Baghdad. back to An Najaf tomorrow. was in Kuwait for two days and back there for 4 more at end of this week.
My son is the one in the NY hat.
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If it doesn't fit get a bigger hammer.
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  • rufe-snow
    Hope your son is a better security guard, then he is at identifying military firearms.

    Hope the concrete roof of that building is reinforced with rebar. If it isn't and they light off the "ZSU-23-2"?? in anger, against somebody. Whoever are manning the gun or under the roof are in mortal danger.
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  • kuhlewulf
    Ok Rufe, now what? We went from ZSU-23 to ZPU-2 now were back where we started. I am still of the opinion that your TPV/ZPU-2 I.D. is accurate. I don't know. Lets do what we did in South East Asia, declare victory and leave.[V]

    James

    Whats next? A ban on automatic transmissions?
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  • mark christian
    I'm inclined to agree with the snowman...this guy needs a lesson in ComBloc small arms ID. The Kalashnikov in question is NOT a Krinkov! The Soviet submachinegun AKMS-U (or AKR) is a derivitive of the AKM and was never produced on a milled receiver. It also has a side folding stock and the typical "Krinkov" expansion chamber/flash suppressor fitted to its muzzel. Once again the over sized rear sight was moved back onto the receiver cover and is combined with the cover pivot. The weapon in question is probably exactly what Irarmsx thought...a hacked AK-47 which was turned into a pistol by some local gun smith. I know my Kalashnikovs very well having spent many years in Eastern Europe where I have many military contacts and that is not a Krinkov.

    Mark T. Christian
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  • competentone
    quote:Originally posted by mark christian
    I'm inclined to agree with the snowman...this guy needs a lesson in ComBloc small arms ID. The Kalashnikov in question is NOT a Krinkov!


    The magazine on the "chopped" AK-47 looks like the 7.62x39. Aren't the Krinkov's all chambered for the 5.45x39 or are some in 7.62?
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  • mark christian
    As I mentioned the actual Krinkov (named after the leader of the firearms design team) is designated AKMS-U (using the Roman alphabet rather than Cyrillic). These guns were chambered for the 7.62X39 Soviet service cartridge and are all based on the AKM using stamped receivers. Later a submachine gun variant of the AK-74, the AKS-74U, was developed chambered for the 5.45mm cartridge. Poland produces a version of the later type which has the typical East German side folding wire stock, a three round burst function and is one of my favorite Kalashnikovs. In Soviet servcice only the 7.62mm AKMS-U is a Krinkov although I suppose this is no different that people calling their Bushmasters or Colt Match Target rifles AR-15s...close, but not correct.

    Mark T. Christian
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