What gun is right for me?
I am new to the world of guns and figure this would be a great place to start to learn. I am interested in purchasing a semi-automatic rifle that is reliable, rugged, accuracte and takes hi-capacity magazines. I have been looking at the AK line of rifle but would like other more experienced individuals opinions. There aren't many gun stores close to where I live so, I would like to have a gun that takes ammo that is fairly easy to get from a retail store like Dick's or Walmart. I don't want to have to travel an hour to get my needed ammo. I don't plan on shooting the gun more than one or twice every three months and really its primary purpose is for self-defense in(I know this will sound silly) a end of the world situation. I would love to hear some opinions. Thanks in advance.
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welcome to the boards new guy! but, this subject is an opinion request, therefore best suited on the general discussion board. thought i'd steer you straight on your first flight into the g.b forums! good luck! btw...get an M1 garand! 0 -
Knowing what part of the world you lived in would help. In the United States, I would narrow it down to .22, .223, or .308 for calibers for an "End of the World". Knowing how far back in the sticks you live would narrow it down a bit more. After you have determined a caliber, you can better look at launching platforms.
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The ammo you can buy on line and have delivered. For semi auto and hi cap you are looking at 5.56, 7.62X39 and 7.62 NATO. The M1 Garand is an 8 shot weapon and I do not consider it hi cap. Others may but I do not. The 5.56 and the 7.62X39 is the most common of the in-exspensive rounds. Soooooo ither an AR type or an AK type. Do your home work and you will know what is right for you. My 2 cents [8D]
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Welcome!
What are you looking to spend?
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Lets see, first gun = simple, not picky about cleaning
home defense= shotgun
Takes mags, semi-auto
sounds like an AK in 12, 20 or 410 guage
only downside is mag capacity limited to 5 rounds, but there's no limit on how many 5 rounders you can own
and they're very reasonably priced, reliable, and the ammo can be purchased anywhere.
An 'end of the world' situation denotes a celestial body impact or a nuclear attack, in both these cases, your only thought would be food and home defense.
If you meant america being attacked, go with a US/NATO caliber so you could use their ammo against them. In that case I would use AKS (sar3) in 223, with an adapter which allows you to use AR or M-16 mags that your enemy would supply.
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If you consider buckshot at .33 caliber and 15 to 20 per shell with 5 shells per magazine and one in the chamber, then you have approximately 75 to 120 projectiles. You could consider that hi-cap. 0 -
To answer some questions
I live in a suburban community that is about 1 hour north of a major city.
I am willing to spend between $500 and $700 for the weapon excluding accessories and ammo.
I have seen several people recommending either a weapon from the Ak family or the AR-15. I was looking at the listings and saw several different types of AK type weapons.
1. What is the difference between an AK-74 and an AK-47?
2. What is the difference between an romainan AK-47, a bulgarian AK-47, a russian AK-47 and a polytech AK-47? Does this designation indicate something about their quality?
Thanks for all your input guys. It is really helping in my decision process.0 -
To me, the clear choice can only be a .223 (ready, inexpensive ammunition availability) that has a large pool of inexpensive Pre-Ban magazines available. That leaves only the Colt AR-15 and its successors and clones, and eliminates the Ruger Mini-14, the AK-style .223 rifles and other para-military .223 rifles.
For those who are fans of the AK-47 clones, they will argue that ammunition and magazines are also readily available and inexpensive, and they are right, but not quite to the same degree. However, I prefer the ergonomics and accuracy of the AR-15 and its successors and clones.
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quote:For those who are fans of the AK-47 clones, they will argue that ammunition and magazines are also readily available and inexpensive, and they are right, but not quite to the same degree.
JC, I must disagree, my AK to AR adapter allows me to use AR mags in my AK, never had a failure to feed or jam, and the AR mags actually fit better into and out of it that my AR type rifle
Ralph
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You have gotten some great advice on your rifle.
I would suggest a backup rifle.
For the end of the world scenario, a Ruger 10/22 is a good choice, in .22 LR. These guns are rugged and reliable and accurate. Get same scope as you will get for the big rifle and you will have interchangable scopes.
As you know .22 ammo is so cheap, they may as well give it away. The .22 will kill a human graveyard dead, especially if someone was gut shot once or twice and no medical aid was available. Even with medical aid, a couple torso hits from a .22 is a prescription for a funeral.
This gun could be used by any of your kids or wife, no recoil problem. Light, easy to carry all day. Good for killing racoons or squirrels, if you are good enough could kill a deer.
Whether you can get hi cap mags for it still, I don't know. You could get 5 or 10 of the factory mags, they carry 10 shots and fit real nice flush to the bottom of the rifle, make for easy carrying.
You could find one of these used, get a scope and ammo for a couple hundred bucks, maybe $300.0 -
I agree with most with the .223 or .22. An AR rifle would be great, but they are more expensive. A ruger mini 14 is not as accurate long range(can be made accurate), but is reliable, and parts (mags) are plentiful. I would say it is nearly perfect for protection. Having a backup 10-22 is perfect! I have three, and they are awesome, and cheap. You can buy a new one for $160, and a good scope for $30. HI cap mags for 10-22 are very expensive...50 rds(if you can find them) are usually $80. 10 rd mags are readily available. A typical mini is $450 to $500 new. .223 ammo is plentiful and easy to get. mark 0 -
Cavalry Arms CAV-15 MKII, I picked up mine for $650, but I have noticed that sometimes you can get some factory direct for around $550 http://cavalryarms.com/ . AR-15 variant, .223, accepts high caps, weighs less than 6lbs.
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Cavalry Arms CAV-15 MKII
Henry Lever Action 22Mag
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