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Japanese War Rifle - I need help.

greeker375
I have recently acquired a Japanese Arisaka Rifle that's is in really good condition.

I have gone to several relic pages and read chapters on markings, etc. My problem is this gun has NO markings. All I can see are SN E329 and a number 45 under the bolt handle. Nothing else. Even the "mum" is missing...and I don't mean ground off. The metal is smooth and there never was a "mum" there.

Any ideas as to what I've got, value, date of mfg, etc.

I could send pic's to an e-mail addy, but, don't know how to post'em here.

Many Thanks

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  • jonk
    You absolutely sure it is an arisaka?

    If so i don't know why it would have a letter prefix before the serial or NO mum or evidence of grinding. the only contract Arisakas I know of are the Mexican 7mm contract that would have mexican markings adn are VERY rare.

    Any way to post pics of this thing?

    jon

    "...hit your enemy in the belly, and kick him when he is down, and boil his prisoners in oil- if you take any- and torture his women and children. Then people will keep clear of you..." -Admiral of the Fleet Lord Fisher, speaking at the Hague Peace Conf
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  • rufe-snow
    It would be best to post good quality pictures ( close ups preferably ), if you can.

    Just a thought, At the start of the Korean conflict ( 1950 ), the U S command in Japan had thousands of Arisakas reworked & rechambered to 30-06 to arm what was left of the South Korean Army as a emergency expedient. Maybe yours is one of those?


    Just had another thought, maybe your rifle is one of those "Type I" contract rifles made in Italy for Japan in the 30's. Had one years ago, it's been so long can't remember what the markings were.
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  • rufe-snow
    Here are some pictures of Japenese Rifles from Mike Kerrigans excellent web-site http://oldrifles.com

    Note specifically the "Type I" rifle and the "Late T-99" with "Parkerized Finish" these are the rifles that I noted in my previous post.


    http://oldrifles.com/japanese.htm
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  • p3skyking
    Japanese rifles did not have a letter prefix with the exception of the Carcano (Type I).

    I have never heard of a "sanitized" Arisaka, but then again, I shouldn't have if things went according to plan.

    If you can email photos to all the boardmembers here, I'm sure a name could be determined.

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  • jonk
    You know, just thinking on that serial for some reason, gut is shouting argie mauser.... they were often ground and reblued. often very smoothly. But if you are SURE there is no crest...Hmm...send me those pics. I emailed you my email.


    "...hit your enemy in the belly, and kick him when he is down, and boil his prisoners in oil- if you take any- and torture his women and children. Then people will keep clear of you..." -Admiral of the Fleet Lord Fisher, speaking at the Hague Peace Conf
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  • Ross
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  • jonk
    I got pics from him. It is a type I.

    "...hit your enemy in the belly, and kick him when he is down, and boil his prisoners in oil- if you take any- and torture his women and children. Then people will keep clear of you..." -Admiral of the Fleet Lord Fisher, speaking at the Hague Peace Conf
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  • greeker375
    Many thanks to all who have answered and your efforts.
    They are very much appreciated.
    Greeker

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  • tatercats
    wat would a jap rifle be worth if the chrisathiam was ground off, but it had the bolt dust cover, and the arsenal muzzle cap with it in exccelent condition?
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  • p3skyking
    quote:Originally posted by tatercats
    wat would a jap rifle be worth if the chrisathiam was ground off, but it had the bolt dust cover, and the arsenal muzzle cap with it in exccelent condition?
    tatercats@hotmail


    Would have to know if it's a Type 30, 35, 2, 38, 44, 97, 99, or something else first.

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  • Contender Man
    Will send you my email address, you send pics to me and I'll post them for the group.

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  • tatercats
    i think it is a 99 but i am not certian. its a bolt action, full length rifle with cleaning rod and flip up sight with "wings" that fold down off of the sight.
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  • njretcop
    Tater,

    A missing or defaced "mum" really affects the value of an Arisaka. A type 99, if it is matching, and in good condition, with the aircraft wings and rod is worth about 150 to 250.



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