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old harrington & richardson 410 ???

light12
i have an old 410 single shot pat. feb. 27 1900 i would like to keep an eye out for a replacement stock is there a model number on the gun that i should watch for and i assume this gun shoots 2 1/2" shells not 3" on top of the barrel it reads 410-44cal. it also a small frame gun youth model thanks for any help
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  • Dean Cascio
    on top of the barrel it reads 410-44cal.

    If I remember right the 410-44 cal. is a specialty type of 44-40 shot-shell that was made around the 1900's. Its not interchangeable with .410's.
    Dean

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  • b.goforth
    light12,
    your shotgun is a "model 1915" the 410-44 markings were used between 1915 and 1922. 410 is the 2 1/2 inch shell and the 44 part of the markings refer to the 44 shot and 44 extra long shot cartridges. "do not fire 44 caliber bulleted ammo in this gun" pressures are to high.

    the earlier model 1905 (also a small frame) was manufactured for the 44 caliber shot cartridge only. this was a popular small bore chambering until the 410 became available.

    dean, sorry if i steped on your toes.
    b.goforth
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  • 2520wcf
    I've seen Stevens, H&R, Iver Johnson, and "Hardware Store" brand breakopen singles that were marked ".410/44," as well as ".410/12mm." I've also seen them marked ".44 Shot" and ".44XL Shot"." I know that the "12mm" is just the European designation for the .410, originally a 2" shell, I think, which later got lengthened to 2 1/2" and then 3" by us Americans.

    So what's the ".44" refer to? There was a .44 Extra Long CF rifle cartridge which had a shot version with the shot in a paper capsule(like almost all rifle ctgs. in the good old days). And there was the special .44-40 shot ctg. referred to by the previous post (It was,I think, also called the ".44XL Shot" just to confuse things). It was used by Wild West and other show shooters to break thrown targets inside show tents with rifles and handguns, and probably for pest control by ordinary people.

    I know (from youthful experiments by others) about shooting .44 metalic rounds in modern .410s. They will chamber and fire BUT DON'T DO IT! These little shotguns weren't made for experimentation nor for smokeless handgun or rifle pressures.

    But does anyone know if there was an alternate metallic .44 intended by the manufacturers to be shot in early .410s? And if there was, was it based on the .44-40 case or the .44 Extra Long or were these close enough in base dimensions that it didn't make any difference at BLACK POWDER SHOT (NOT smokeless bullet) pressures?
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  • 2520wcf
    Whoops! I think Bgoforth's reply pretty much answers all our questions.
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