Kel-Tec
What do you guys think about kel-tec p11 or possiably in .32 or .380? What are some pros and cons? thanks
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I went to buy the .32 Kel-tec today and they also had the .380. I thought it was a much bigger pistol and was pleasantly suprised that although it was heavier and held one less round, it was very close to the same size.
Is there bad about the .380 version? Anything else I should know about? I think I've looked at all the very small "deep-conceal" pistols (Seecamp, NAA, Augusta, Beretta, etc) and the Kel-tec seems to be the smallest, lightest, and most inexpensive of them and has a good reputation.
P.S. This gun will be for situations where clothing or situation doesn't permit my normal carry gun. Any gun is better than none...0 -
Look at the new kel tec 3AT.. It is light and is a .380 0 -
That was what I was refering to select, I probably wasn't too clear... I went to buy a .32 (cash in hand) and found out the .380 is almost the exact same size (suprised me). Anyway, is there any reason NOT to get the .380? 0 -
3AT is suppose to be a great gun. .380 goes over the .32 everytime. If fact, I have some .380 loads that are almost as hot as a standard 9mm. I almost bought one but got a deal on a Colt Pony 380 0 -
The KelTec BB will tell you all you want to know about the guns......mainly how to keep em running.The seem to need a lot of work,or none.Luck of the draw type thing.
I bleieve it's KTOG.org
If you're handy with tools and can do what they call "fluff and buff" yourself,no problem.I just won't buy a gun that has such a good chance of needing to be returned to the factory right away to make it run...sometimes 2 or 3 times,per the BB posts.
Throckmortons' the alias,cas is the game.0 -
Throck,
Its not as bad as it sounds over there. People are much more likley to post about a problem then about a fully functional piece.
Kinda like the glock kaboom thing, its way overblown..0 -
Friend of mine had the .32 and really liked it, but swapped for a Kahr
PM9. Both shoot great. The .380 should be OK, but We've heard it does sting a little when shot. I guess what do you expect when the gun weighs next to nothing.0 -
I test fired the P3AT a few weeks ago because I wasn't sure if I wanted the 32, P3AT or the P11 (9mm). As much as I liked the gun, it was to small for my hands. allechalley nailed it when he said "a little sting". After 10 rounds, I had a nice red streak working between my thumb and fore finger. Not really a comfortable gun to shoot. A law enforcement friend of mine bought a P3AT a few weeks ago. His comment was to me was "if I knew what I know now, I probably would not have bought it". He was refering to the stiff slide and the sting. I'm not knocking the gun, but you wanted feed back. That is all..... 0 -
Exactly what I had heard on the sting.. 0 -
I've owned both and while the .380 has more felt recoil, it was not unmanageable. After going through a 50 rd box, the slide was not quite as stiff as new/unfired but is still strong. The slide was originally hard to cycle the first round but will loosen with break-in. The .380 shot very good and hitting at point of aim. Shot at both ten and fifteen feet. Prior to shooting the new .380, I did use some Iosso to polish the feed ramp and slide. This is just common sense cleaning of any firearm. I have since sold the .32 as the .380 provides much more punch from the same package. [^] 0 -
Thanks guys... I think I will go with the .380, by the way, I couldn't ever remember the model name of it and it dawned on me today. Sound out the model name P3AT (P three a-t sounds just like .380).
Anyway, I'm not worried about the recoil, I shoot full-powered 10mm loads so this shouldn't be any worse. Once I verify that it is reliable and shoots where I want, I probably won't shoot it more than 20 rounds in a sitting.
I genuinely appreciate the feedback, a person can read this stuff all over the 'net and ya wonder if the writers are biased one way or other, but I feel this forum is typically more open.
Thanks again.0 -
Good choice. I traded my Keltec .32 and $50 in for the .380. Glad I did. 0 -
The only functional difference between the P32 and the P3AT is that the .380 cal doesn't have a last shot hold open feature like its .32 counterpart. Additionally the P3AT is like 1/16" longer in the slide. I have a friend that owns both of these as well as the North American Guardian in both calibers. He said he like the KelTec .380 over the Guardian .380. He said it was easier to shoot. Odd given the heavier weight of the Guardian. All said and done, these are meant to be carried rather than shot all day anyway. 0
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