Round verses Pointed Bullets
Which and Why. Quick Opinions only. Round Bullets Vs. Pointed Bullets for Hunting Big Game in Woods with brushy understory. Does one bullet perform better in brush than the other or does it not matter????
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I believe bullet construction is more important than shape. Years ago it was said that slower heavier bullets would penetrate brush better but I think tests have shown there is not a great difference. Extremely high velocity bullets, 220 Swife, .22-250, etc. can disintegrate upon contact with a leaf or blade of grass. With hunting weight bullets in larger bore rifles you will find little difference in brush bucking ability between the round nose and spitzer types. 0 -
I feel that "Brush Busting" is a myth. When a bullet, round, pointed, or flat, hits a twig, limb, weed, etc., it is going to deform/deflect to some degree. If your target is very close to the twig, then you might still hit what you aimed at, but the further away the target from the impact, the greater the degree of deflection. You're just not going to push a bullet through brush and have any accuracy. Just my opinion. 0 -
just ask a vietnam vet what he thinks of shooting in the brush and hitting his target. i always thought RN hunting bullets were for lever action guns?
former air operations officer SEAL Delivery Vehicle Team 2. former navy skeet team, navy rifle/pistol team member. co-owner skeetmaster tubes inc.. owner/operator professional shooting instruction.0 -
Generally speaking, spitzer-type (pointy) bullets maintain their velocity and energy better, and are more accurate at longer ranges (100-150 yards and longer) than round nose bullets.
At "in-the-woods" distances, doesn't make a bit of difference.
Probably more game in the woods have been taken with the old roundnosed "thutty-thutty" than all other cartridges combined.0 -
X-Racer has it, no round nose he. Brush busting is a myth as stated by intercessor. I have used all three factory loading in my .257 Roberts rifles and the only spitzer, a Hornady light magnum, groups far better than the round nosed Rem and Fed bullets in both rifles.
Either are deflected by brush.
Don't load sptizers in your tube magazine lever gun though!
My heros have always killed cowboys.0 -
Actually guys,..about 5 yrs ago +/- I read an article in a magazine where the author did a test to decipher all the theories and opinions. His calibers were from something like a 243 to a 45-70. He took a board,..layed it flat and set dowel rods into pre drilled holes to simulate shooting through verticle brush. His findings were exactly the opposite of what I would have hypothesized. The bullets were pushed through something like 30 individual verticle peices of dowel and the groups were measured on a target at some relatively close distance beyond the "brush". The smaller, higher velocity projectiles heald better groups than the large diameter slugs. I know this is a relatively limited scope of comparison,..but that was the finding. I beleive the 7-08 with a 140gr PSP showed the best group of the day. Now this doesn't simulate real world randomly occuring brush at unknown distances between the target and the muzzle,..but that was the jist of the article. Just to throw a wrench into it,......[:D]
why chase the game when the bullet can get em from here?....
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I have an article, probably the one JustC mentioned and it seemed to me that he set various numbers of pieces of plywood on an angle at various distances from the rifle and the small fast pointy bullets deflected less than the big heavy 45-70 type.
Just the opposite of what we've been told for years. - - ???
The angled plywood was supposed to simulate twigs and brush at different angles of impact.
I'll try to dig out that article.0 -
"pointed" bullets will generally have a much higher b.c. than round or soft nose bullets. Check this place out, it will amaze you if you look around on this site for a few minutes. For some reason the web site I posted isn't working (the link). Type it into a search engine and look around.
http://www.lostriverballistics.com
R/
Dave
How different the world would be if we could consult the veteran instead of the politician. - Henry Miller0 -
Many years ago, the NRA did a study similar to that mentioned here with the same results. Counter intuitively (or counter commonly held belief) as it may be, the spitzer types are less likely to be deflected. However, this is only relative; any projectile will be deflected to some degree, and the loss of accuracy becomes more pronounced the further the target is from the intervening object. I stopped using a scope in the woods after losing a super nice buck at close range to a twig which didn't show in the scope. The cartridge in question was a .270 with a standard 130 gr spitzer SP slug. 0
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