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What is Single Action/ Double Action, Carbine

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  • Der Gebirgsjager
    To answer your post title, I can't imagine what this would be, unless it is some sort of a carbine that uses a single/double action handgun as its mechanical basis. An example of single action would be a Colt Single Action Army (thumb-cocking, cowboy-type revolver) where you must manually cock the hammer for each shot, or the 1911-type pistols which require that the hammer be manually cocked before the first shot can be fired, either by racking back the slide or thumb-cocking the hammer. Without the hammer being cocked you can pull on the trigger all day and nothing will happen. A double action would be like any of the many modern revolvers which can be cocked and fired merely by pulling back on the trigger, or the Walther P-38 pistol which operates the same way (as do many of the more modern semi-autos). In the case of the double action revolver or pistol, both also have the single action ability in that they may also be fired by manually cocking the hammer. Hence, what is commonly referred to as a double action is actually both a double and single action; although a double action only is a different animal in that the trigger must be pulled to cock and fire--you can not fire it single action. As for carbine vs. rifle, the carbine is shorter and handier and hails from the days of horse-mounted soldiers. The textbook definition is a rifle having a barrel 20 inches in length or shorter. Sooooo....what firearm are you looking at that has the description of being a single action/double action carbine?[?]
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  • Xracer
    D-G...I think that Ollie was asking two seperate questions. One about SA/DA pistols, and a second one about what a carbine is.

    Ollie....generally speaking, we refer to any shoulder arm with a barrel length of 20" or less to be a carbine.

    However, historically, a carbine was a shoulder weapon with a barrel length shorter than rifle length.....and that varied considerably.

    Some military rifles had a 30" barrel length, and the carbine version of the same weapon had a 24" barrel. It really varied all over the place.
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  • Ollie
    Yeah, I was asking two separate questions, both of which you guys answered for me.
    Thanks a lot, I've been wondering what these terms meant for a while now.
    Thanks again!
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  • Der Gebirgsjager
    Oh! Thanks Xracer. Guess I slid another notch into advancing senility![:D]

    The post's title did kind of make me think we were talking about a single/double action carbine. And, Gee..what if we would have gotten an answer!
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  • bobinwis
    Ollie - If a single action revolving carbine is on your Christmas list, read on.
    D-G.....Your prayers have been answered..There is/was a single action revolving carbine. Want to buy one?? Look at page 67 in Cabela'a current shooters catalog. Nice picture and description. Patterned after the 1858 Remington frame. Taking that further, look at page 1164 in the current Blue Book (24th Ed.) under Remington 'rifles, disc.'. Remington did make a revolving percussion rifle in .46 and .44 calibers, less than 1,000 from 1866-1872. If you have one, it could be worth up to 18 big big bills. Even a junker is worth 2,000. There are also 3 known to exist in .46 rimfire caliber according to Fjestad.

    Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all. Enjoy reading your posts.
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  • Xracer
    ....and, of course, back in the 1855-61, Colt made a number of single-action percussion sidehammer revolving carbines/rifles/shotguns...but you're not likely to run into many of those. [:D]
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