? about cleaning match grade barrells
When you clean a match grade barrel do you "scrub" back and forth and if so do you let the brush come completely out of the barrel before drawing back in?
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Brush?
When I clean a very expensive purpose-built barrel, I use only patches and solvent. I push a solvent-soaked patch thru the barrel from the breech to the muzzle, then unscrew the tip, remove the rod from the barrel, let the solvent work about 5 minutes, then run a clean, tight-fitting patch thru the bore.
I don't personally believe in "scrubbing" back & forth; the bullet only goes one way, so do my patches. In my mind; this will keep any burrs or gravure marks going the same direction, and might improve accuracy.
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GreenLantern,
Something to give consideration to is that it is the crown (muzzle) that is the last thing that your bullets touches before it leaves the barrel. The crown can be an accuracy enhancing feature by being sharp and perpendicular to the bore or it can reduce accuracy by having been mistreated. When you let a brush exit the muzzle while cleaning is will wobble around trying to center back up for the reverse stroke. This puts additional wear on the once sharp edges of the crown thereby reducing accuracy.
With this in mind, I agree with gunnut505, in that I use only patches to clean and care for any of my barrels, not just the expensive ones.
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The crown is exactly why I thought I'd ask the question as I know damage to it will effect accuracy. Though given that there is flex in the bristles of the brush I question the desire to avoid using one. I would think that a bullet would put far more wear and tear on the barrel, then say, 10 stokes with a brush that was properly inserted via the chamber and not drawn back through. A cleaner barrel the better IMO. 0 -
GreenLantern,
With the number of barrel cleaners that are available, it is virtually unnecessary to use brushes. There are cleaners that are specific to types of fouling whether it is carbon, residual powder or copper/lead. There is even a foaming product that will remove all fouling and requires only patching out, an application of a mild neutralizer and light application of oil for a properly prepared barrel.
As to the degree of wear at the crown, I think that there was a thread over at www.benchrest.com that contained photomicrographs that one of the shooters had taken of crowns in various states of use. If you registered and asked, I'm sure that several folks can re-post those photos and you can file them on your hard drive for study. I thought they were very interesting but I failed to copy them to my computer.
I agree that a bullet wears on a barrel. But I also feel that using brushes adds to that wear and can be avoided by judicious and careful use of the cleaners available to us.
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I use nylon brushes when I have to do a down and dirty clean-up of a match barrel or any other barrel. The Nylon won't wear the barrel,..and can actually be reversed while in the bore with damage to the brush.
Other than that,...buy a good bore giude and solvent port,..they help to hold the rod and jag away from the rifling when they are drawn back through the muzzel and into the bore.
why chase the game when the bullet can get em from here?....
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If you are shooting total metal jacket only I would try WIPE-OUT this is a brushless bore cleaner. It does not harem the bore.I use it in my shop and find it saves a lot of time too. If you do not find it call me and I will fix you up 217-585-1911. 0 -
i use a nylon rod. i brass brush it, swab it, swab oil it, swab out excess, i hand wipe and clean breech and nooks with a q-tip. if you think im gonna take the patch out and fumble for every stroke changing it at the breech, so it goes one direction, you gotta be crazy. back and forth back and forth, clean and store. my scores and groups have never been effected. heck, i know some that swear by never cleaning a thing and they still wax me at matches! and for the record....clean the rod and tips when your done!
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Sounds better than the way I was taught...
I was taught by a bench rest shooter to spray WD-40 from action down to muzzle with straw untill it comes out clear.then 1 pass with clean patch.
Guess we all do it "the other way"
Great topic though!!!0
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