223 cal.
Interested in bolt action 223 for general plinking/hunting. Need input on a good make and model.
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I like Remington rifles. They make their model "7" and the "700" series guns in .223. I have a left hand model 700 VS (varmint synthetic) in .223. Its a very nice shooter.
Of course, just about all the other major rifle makers produce their rifles in .223, so you have a lot of areas to pick from.
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Which ever rifle you go with, make sure the barrel has the proper twist rate for the bullet weight you plan on shooting. Some bolt guns will not shoot lite (45-55 gr) and some will not shootheavy(69-80 grain)bullets. 0 -
First off, it's a neat caliber - a .22 on steroids. I picked up a Remington M7 Youth last year and have been well pleased. It's light and quick, even with a scope, and will keep Hornady V-Max 40 gr bullets in as tight a group as I'm capable of producing at 100 yards. Also does well with SA 5.56 surplus which is rather inexpensive just now. Neat thing was that, out of the box, I was able to keep the surplus stuff in about 5" with open sights. Certainly not bragging size but with these old eyes I'm not complaining. Can't comment on Ruger or any of the lesser known brands. Do have a friend who raves about his Winchester in this caliber. Research and personal preference. 0 -
It may sound funny but for the money how about a Howa model 1500 Varmint.This is the one in stainless ,bull barrel and blue stock.I have one that will place five shots in the same hole at 100.This gun outshoots me.For the price you can't go wrong. Just my 2 cents.By the way this gun is made by Interarms. 0 -
For what it is worth, I looked at several makes and finally bought CZ Model 527 American. It cost about $450.00 including mounts, looks good and shoots well. I really like it.
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nice article in predator extreme mag. about the howa..february 2004 issue..very nice rifle they say for the money..shoots great right out of the box..i have a ruger 77 in 223 that i like very much and also a few h-bar colts that shoot nice also..great round... 0 -
Ive got a Rem Model 700 BDL .223 and a Ruger MK II .223 and I prefer the Ruger in this particular.My 2 cents!
Best!!
Rugster
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I would personally go with the savage Tactical 223.
It is a great ,accurate shooter with the 45 and 55 grain ammo.Remember.. most bolt action rifles are either 14 or 12 twist. This is great for 55 grain and less. The 62 grain will have mediocre accuracy..and the 69 and 77 grain will be all over the paper...NO accuracy what so ever as these larger weight bullets need the 7 twist.
If you want to shoot the heavy stuff..order a special barrel. 62 grain needs 1/9 twist. 69-77 grain needs 1/7 twist. I personally like the 55 grain.0 -
Hello "hack" and welcome to the forum,I think you'll find just about all 223's shoot as well as you can hold'em.I have an Encore that I really like,just my .02,Bob. 0 -
hackworth,
I don't think that you can go wrong with any of the current production rifles outside of the obvious cheap poorly made crap. I do think that it's important to have enough money set aside to get a decent quality scope, base and rings, so don't put all of your savings into just the rifle and buy a $90.00 piece of junk scope.
If you plan to upgrade your rifle at some point in the future, I would suggest either a Remington or a Winchester. The reason is that there are tons of aftermarket parts and accessories for these two rifles and there just isn't for the others.
Below is a copy of twist rate information from Shilen, a major barrel maker with decades of experience making not only barrels but Match bullets also. The chart will give you the straight information on twist rates and bullet weights. You should visit the websites of the various riflemakers to find out what twist rates that they offer in their rifles before you buy one.
Here is a link for a good reference site with lots of information:
http://www.benchrest.com/sst/
Recommended Twist Rate - Courtesy of Shilen
The information below will help you select the best barrel twist for your specific needs, providing of course there are multiple choices. If you'll be shooting one bullet weight, choose a twist from the chart just fast enough to stabilize it. Too fast a twist simply overspins the bullet and may result in reduced accuracy. On the other hand, a twist too slow for any bullet will likely produce instability, keyholing and rotten accuracy. So if you're going to be using several bullet weights, be sure to select a twist that will stabilize the heaviest one, since lighter bullets will also be stabilized.
By way of explanation, the numbers in the "Twist" column indicate how far the bullet must travel through the bore to make one full revolution. This is determined by the rate of rotation of the rifling. For example, a 9"-twist barrel spins the bullet one full turn when it passes 9 inches through the bore. In a 16"-twist barrel, the bullet makes one revolution in 16 inches. So at the same bullet velocity, the 9" twist is faster (spins the bullet faster) than the 16" twist. Consequently, as the chart reflects in the .224 CF section, the 9" twist is necessary for stabilizing heavier bullet weights.
Again looking at the .224 CF section, if you're planning to shoot 55-grain bullets, the 14" twist is ideal. This twist is also the best choice for 52- and 53-grain match bullets driven at moderate velocities. But if you're also contemplating shooting a 60-grainer, go with the 12" twist, since it will stabilize all the bullets you'll be using. As you can see from the 15" and 16" twists, higher velocities also spin the bullet faster and may enable a slower-than-recommended twist to stabilize a marginally overweight bullet. However, this is tricky stuff best left to those who are highly experienced in operating at the ragged edge of stability and sanity.
The basic principles just outlined apply to all the calibers below. But, if you have questions or need a recommendation, let us know.
224 CF
8" For bullets heavier than 70 gr.
9" For bullets up to 70 gr.
12" For bullets up to 63 gr.
14" For bullets up to 55 gr.
15"*For bullets up to 55 gr. driven 4,100 fps or more
16"*For bullets up to 55 gr. driven 4,300 fps or more0 -
Listen to String. He knows his .223. I have one that is a S&W long gun which was made by Howa. Most accurate rifle I have ever owned, and easy on the pocket book. 0
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