"Greasing" a Garand...............
Mark Christian.....or anyone that wants to answer this....!!! I am not well versed on the M-1 Garand, but I do own one real nice Springfield from the WW-II serial number range. Even though I have "SURFED" onto many "Garand" web sites, I have yet to get a real answer or information that leads me to believe I have a difinitive answer.
The "grease" from the little pots of GI stuff......versus plain Gun Oil. What is the difference? And, if using grease, where exactly do you put it in the gun? I guess the oil sort of speaks for itself and you can pretty much put it on any area involving moving parts, etc., right? If not, how about some serious information on how to properly oil or grease one of these Battle Rifles? Anybody know of someone with the "exact abnd proper" instructions for doing this? Thanks in advance to those who answer.....it is appreciated!!
The "grease" from the little pots of GI stuff......versus plain Gun Oil. What is the difference? And, if using grease, where exactly do you put it in the gun? I guess the oil sort of speaks for itself and you can pretty much put it on any area involving moving parts, etc., right? If not, how about some serious information on how to properly oil or grease one of these Battle Rifles? Anybody know of someone with the "exact abnd proper" instructions for doing this? Thanks in advance to those who answer.....it is appreciated!!
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Paul,
Only two places are recommended to put the grease. The operating handle groove and the top front of the bolt. Both places should be lightly greased according to experts I have spoken to.
No doubt Mark or Neal can add more info for you when they come on.
Charlie
"It's the stuff dreams are made of Angel"NRA Certified Firearms InstructorMember: GOA, RKBA, NJSPBA, NJ area rep for the 2ndAMPD. njretcop@copmail.com0 -
Paul, why don't you send me an e-mail and I give you the details. This topic came up a few months ago and one of our esteemed members flat out told me that I had no idea what the heck I was talking about when I passed along the information on lubricating an M1 service rifle. I'd prefer NOT to go through that agony a second time around!
Mark T. Christian0 -
Mark,
Would you please copy me on that email. I too would like to know for sure. Thanks.....
Charlie
"It's the stuff dreams are made of Angel"NRA Certified Firearms InstructorMember: GOA, RKBA, NJSPBA, NJ area rep for the 2ndAMPD. njretcop@copmail.com0 -
Mark;
You've got MAIL!!
I Miss The World I Grew Up In!0 -
This is the exact reason that I tell people I won't do private e-mails...I end up sending out 50 more e-mails to people who want the same information. I have not seen my pal v35 post for at least a week so I'll try to slip this one past him since I am always "talking through my hat" when I discuss the M1 service rifle (in his own opinion at least). Paul, the M1 was designed to operate with lubrication. Before I get jumped on this subject again let me say to all concerned that if you intend to take your rifle into the deserts of North Africa or recreate the winter conditions found in the Aleutian Islands or Korea (I hate the cold) then hold off on the lubricant (okay v35?). If you are like the rest of us who just enjoy shooting in pleasent weather then your M1 can use grease in these locations: The bolt lugs and guides, the surface where the operating rod and barrel come into contact (you'll see the wear marks), the operating rod spring, the operating rod cam, and the operating rod groove in the receiver. The face of the hammer and the rear portion of the bolt assembly will also appreciate a very light coating of grease. Everything else can just be lightly oiled...unless you are headed for El Alamein! Clean the gas cylinder just like the rifle's bore but go easy on the oil.
The U.S. military issued tiny little pots of grease known as Lubriplate which fit perfectly into the buttstock trap of the M1. My proof reader claims that this is pure coincidence and no one ever touched this stuff in the military but I feel that this lubricant can be safely used and it is handy to have around in a pinch. I happen to like to use synthectic grease or Belray salt water proof grease (as used in motorcycle applications) because it performs well and you can purchase a tub that will last twenty years for a fraction of the cost of dedicated rifle grease. Plain white grease of general purpose grease is near worthless in firearms applications and should be avoided. The M1 will operate for quite a while without grease or lubrication but there will be extra wear taking place on the moving parts which I want to avoid. Alright...pile on!
Mark T. Christian0 -
Excellent advice! I still use the same Lubriplate from the same silver tin I got 40 yrs ago-Bob
Gun control is a steady hand0 -
Good advice in all above posts! If you just oil a Garand, you're asking for a problem. It's probably possible to use too much grease, but better too much than not enough. I had a malfunction during the rapid fire of a JCG match;, and the club armorer, after correcting my malfunction, proceded to give me a good chewing over my insufficent lubrication. I have been much more careful since, and malfunction free. 0 -
From what I'm reading, it seems like Molylube or any of the automotive application wheel bearing or chassis lube stuff can be used???? Right?
Am I wrong here? When I "assume" I usually am wrong........Hahahahaha!!
I Miss The World I Grew Up In!0 -
MTC is the expert. Have to mention that Lubriplate is white grease for bearings available from your local auto parts store. One comment
is that the trigger guard lugs should be lubricated. Easy-just pull the TG Housing and lightly grease the exposed lugs. If not, you will have deformation of the TG and it will require replacement. I use silicone grease-my $.020 -
I usually recommend that M1 owners buy a copy of "The M1 Garand: OWNER'S GUIDE" by Scott Duff. This contains lubrication recommendations, as well as just about anything else a shooter might need to know. It's sold at most gun shows, or on Scott Duff's website.
Neal0 -
I contacted Milispec (sp) The company who now produces oils and grease for the military and got a couple of samples (free) from them. They give you a little container of the grease. The grease should last a long time! And it was free!
I just looked it's Militec.com
Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my gun has!______________________________________________________________Proud Member of the GunBroker Ladies' Auxiliary.0 -
Quote;
"Never-under any circumstances-use oil to lubricate any major part of the M1 Garand. Use Grease-heavy grease-in the four bolt points, op rod channel/receiver raceway, and op rod detent. I use a high-temperature, high-pressure wheel bearing grease, for which I pay $1.99 to $3.99 per tub at an auto parts store. You can buy the same thing in itty-bitty, teensy-weensy canisters labeled for firearms use at $3.50 per quarter-ounce, if you wish. Using no lubricant (or improper ones) will seriously attack your rifle's systems. Oil will slop onto the stock and you and just generally make a mess, without doing anything to help the rifle. Incorrect lubricants contribute to the premature death of operating rods, receivers, and, sometimes, shooters."
-Jim Thompson, Author of; The Complete M1 Garand-A Guide for the Shooter and Collector
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" Graphite cup grease is excellant for lubricating bolt lugs, bolt guides, bolt cocking cams, compensating spring, contact surfaces of barrel and operating rod, operating rod cams and springs, and the operating rod groove in the receiver.
All other metal parts should be cleaned and covered with a uniform light coat of oil.
Rust should be removed from the metal parts with a piece of soft wood and oil, never with an abrasive. Screw heads must be kept clean to prevent rusting.
Be careful not to use too much oil as a heavy coat will collect dirt and interfere with operations."
-Technical Manual, MAINTENANCE, U.S. Rifle Garand, Caliber .30 M1, Beretta Arms Company-Brescia-Italy0
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