1911 US Army's
I have two 1911 US Army's. Both have some unusual features that make me wonder what they are worth.
First gun has a serial #123652 and looks like the typical 1911 except:
It looks like it has a national match bushing and sights. It was manufactured by Colt in 1915. Rumor has it that they re-arsenaled a very few in this era to use as some of the first National Match pistols at camp Perry.? Help!! (You can see a picture at www.rrarms.com and look under house specials on the home page.)
Next 1911 US Army was made by Colt in 1918. Serial # 370266. It is in great shape and an older gent traded it to me several years ago. He was in the Navy and said it was issued to him there, chromed! The frame, slide, bushing barrel and magazine are all chrome. The firearm is in excellent condition. I can find no information as to how it wound up chrome or what it's value is. Help!! (again you can see a picture at www.rrarms.com and look under house specials on the home page.)
Any information on either of the nice guns would be appreciated!
Thanks
Mike
First gun has a serial #123652 and looks like the typical 1911 except:
It looks like it has a national match bushing and sights. It was manufactured by Colt in 1915. Rumor has it that they re-arsenaled a very few in this era to use as some of the first National Match pistols at camp Perry.? Help!! (You can see a picture at www.rrarms.com and look under house specials on the home page.)
Next 1911 US Army was made by Colt in 1918. Serial # 370266. It is in great shape and an older gent traded it to me several years ago. He was in the Navy and said it was issued to him there, chromed! The frame, slide, bushing barrel and magazine are all chrome. The firearm is in excellent condition. I can find no information as to how it wound up chrome or what it's value is. Help!! (again you can see a picture at www.rrarms.com and look under house specials on the home page.)
Any information on either of the nice guns would be appreciated!
Thanks
Mike
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"Caveat Emptor" 0 -
Snow ain't snowin' ya. They have beed "Bubba'ed" Sell the chrome to a moron or pimp.
You might get lucky with the other and replace the sights or slide to return it to normal.
Good luck.
...honor is important only when dealng with honorable men.
You asked if I have reverence? I have reverence for truth, but I do not know what truth is. I suspect there are many truths, and therefore, I suspect all who claim to have THE truth. L'Amour0 -
RRarms,
Mike you are gun a dealer, per profile. Welcome!
Your guns, as you surmise, are not worth much to a collector if anything. The chrome job is worth what an unsuspecting individual would pay for the arm. Rumors/stories are that. Methinks this is hog wash. 1010 -
Mike, unfortunately, the guys are not spoofing you. You know the saying: "Buy the gun, not the story."; that applies here.
The blue gun is not restoreable to original condition. The first National Match .45's were not produced until 1956; this isn't one of them. The rear sight notch was milled for installation of the replacement sight; besides, M1911 sights are non-existent. I would estimate that it would sell in $600-700 range as a "shooter".
The Navy never issued chromed pistols. It could be stripped & parkerized for around $200; with a good barrel, it would make a nice "shooter" that would also sell in the $600-700 range. As it is now, I think $300-400 would be the most it would sell for.
Neal0 -
Thanks guys!
I appreciate the information. I might not like what I hear but thank god I didn't give away the farm with them. I should be able to get my $$ back!
I will give the stories away with the guns for free!
Thanks Again!
Mike
Mike0 -
Also, it's much more likely to be nickel plated than chromed. 0 -
R, you also may be interested to know that the 1911s issued to the Navy were marked Model of 1911 US Navy. 0 -
Yea I have about 500 in to it! (chrome 1911)
How could that honest, cute ole timer BS me? I love the statement "buy the gun and not the story". I have told the guys in the shop to do just that! thanks nmyers for that statement, it should save me money in the long run.
Mike0 -
Neal, I would disagree that the first National Matches were not made until 1956. The National Match was introduced in the early 1930s. I am traveling and cannot verify the exact year from memory, but I know it is in that time frame. Perhaps you are thinking of the Gold Cup, which was a later model, the introduction date of which I cannot verify from memory, but it is in the 1950s or 1960s. 0 -
Judge, I stand corrected; it was the Gold Cup that I meant.
Neal0 -
"How could that honest, cute ole timer BS me?"
Us cute old timers have a million stories.....and occasionally, one or two of 'em are true (and if they ain't, the oughtta be)! [:D]
"I got this neat old 1911 here.....it was Wyatt Earp's backup gun! How much'll ya give me for it?"0
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