New Sig Saur P220
OK guys, I just bought a new, (ten rounds thru it) Sig Saur P220 45 auto, with a bunch of magazines included, and I love the way it shoots! It has less felt recoil than my Springfield XD 9MM, and is more accurate too boot!
Do any of you experts know anything about this particular gun? As far as breakage is concerned, over all serviceability, and how long I can expect to be able to shoot it, without something wearing out, barrel, slide, etc.
I have heard that the Sig, and the HK are superior to most anything on the market, but again, my knowledge in this area is limited to the guns that I have on hand, so nay information you can supply, would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks as always,
BigBarn
"Respect the land, and it will respect you"
Do any of you experts know anything about this particular gun? As far as breakage is concerned, over all serviceability, and how long I can expect to be able to shoot it, without something wearing out, barrel, slide, etc.
I have heard that the Sig, and the HK are superior to most anything on the market, but again, my knowledge in this area is limited to the guns that I have on hand, so nay information you can supply, would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks as always,
BigBarn
"Respect the land, and it will respect you"
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BB..... The P220 is an excellent gun. I carried one at work for about 10 years. It will give you many years of service as long as you take care of it.
When my dept was testing the P220 we shot in excess of 1,000 rnds without cleaning and without a malfunction from the test gun.
After we adopted it we had extractors breaking after a year or so.
We found the reason was our ofcrs when loading the gun would drop a round in the chamber and slam the slide forward, then insert the magazine. This practice is very hard on extractors as it hits the back of the chambered case and has to jump around the rim into the extractor groove.
We solved the problem by telling them to load the chamber from the mag, them top off the mag.
I have not heard of any of our guns shooting loose or wearing out the bore.0 -
Follow Lefty's advice and clean it regular, and it will probably still be a good serviceable weapon, long after you have passed it down to future generations. It is hard to beat a SIG. Love mine.
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I own exactly two .45 ACP handguns (out of 100 total) and one of these is a SIG/Sauer P220. The 220 is simply the best double action .45 available, is rock solid reliable, and I doubt that you will live long enough to wear it out.
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Thanks guys, for the fast replies! You all confirmed my information, that I kind of gathered before purchasing this hand gun. Especially from "Lefty" it is always nice to hear from one of our hero lawmen, I know beyond a doubt that you speak the truth!
Thanks again,
BigBarn [8D]
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And firearms dealers such as myself never do?
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BB.... Thanks for the kind words. I hope you enjoy you P220.
Mark... I have yet to hear anything but the truth from you. Your posts are always informative and accurate.
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I do not mean to get too far off the subject, but this discussion of the P220 brings to mind an issue that bothered me for a long time about the .45 SIG desgin. I have a Browning BDA .45, which is the European version of the SIG P220 with the butt magazine release that was sold here by Browning before the SIG-Sauer pistol line was introduced in the United States. I always thought it was the hardest recoiling full-size .45 I had ever shot, yet I never heard any P220 owners say anything about strong recoil.
It was not until I compared my old BDA to a new SIG P220 that I realized there had been a major change in the strength and design of the recoil spring. The P220 has a twisted-wire recoil spring of heavier gauge, which apparently changes the recoil impulse of the pistol to soften the felt recoil. I have been meaning to buy a new P220 recoil spring assembly for my BDA and try it, but have not gotten around to it. Has anyone else had this experience with the BDA .45? Did the P220 always have this heavier spring, or did early ones have the lighter spring as used on the BDA?
SIGs have a wonderful reputation, but I prefer a pisol with a safety if possible. I therefore prefer the H-K USP .45 with an ambidextrous safety installed on the Variant 1 format (where you get a choice of cocked and locked, hammer drop safety, hammer down with safety off, or hammer down with safety on, etc.). The fact that it holds 10 or 12 plus one is also a bonus for me.
I think you will find many posters on these board who "speak the truth," not just law enforcement members.0 -
Your Honor, you raise an interesting point about the recoil springs and although I noticed it I never gave it much thought until now. I own a number of SIG/Sauer pistols including a 9mm P220 which was one of the early Hawes imports from around 1978. This particular pistol is fitted with the single wire type recoil spring, but since it is 9mm the recoil was never much of a concern. When I purchased a 9mm P225 from Interarms in 1983 I noticed that it was fitted with the multiple strand spring as was the P226 I purchased from Kiesler in 1985 so it would seem that somewhere in that time frame there was an engineering design change to the spring. I'm trying to locate some of my very old SIG sales literature which I know shows an exploded view of the P220 so that I can take a look at the spring. My 1977 edition of Jane's Infantry Weapons shows a disassembled P220 (Then known as the Swiss Model 75) and the recoil spring is clearly of the single wire type.
Mark T. Christian0 -
The P220 is undoubtedly one of the most accurate and reliable .45 guns out of the box you will find.
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Hey guys, lighten up a little! I did not intend to imply that only "Lawmen" are thuthful! I was just trying to give Lefty a compliment. Sorry if I hurt any other feeling out there. It goes beyond doubt that all of you "Advanced Members" are more than truthful, and always informative.
As always, thanks for your great input. I'm still learning the ropes, and I will improve, with your help.
BigBarn [:)]
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Judge.... I also have B.D.A. and a Sig P220, both in .45. When I got the P220 I noticed it had the multi strand twisted wire spring, but I never noticed a difference in the recoil between the two guns. It does make sense that the newer design would improve the felt recoil.
My dept phased out all the B.D.A.'s a long time ago, partly because of the mag release on the butt. We found that when riding in a unit for hours the mag would sometimes get released because of the butt of the gun pressing against the seat. The mag would stay in the gun due to friction of the release on the mag body.
This proved very dangerous to one of our cops one day when a nut case attacked him with a skateboard. The ofcr drew his gun and got off only 1 shot. It was fistacuffs after that. The cop finally won, and the bad guy went to jail instead of the morgue.0
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