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Frangible Bullets for Military Use?

trstone
Just read an interesting little article on the Jeff Rense website:

http://www.rense.com/general45/priva.htm

I thought---and have always heard---that you COULDN'T use frangible or softnosed or hollow-point bullets for warfare. When did the rules change??

I suppose, at any rate, they'd be good for hunting....
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  • shoey
    I alwyas thought the same thing. But it did say that this is not approved for military service yet....but there was also no mention that it couldnt be because it was frangible....

    shoey
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  • ammo guy
    Frangible bullets were used only for training. They would not be legal for combat use. They are now mostly obsolete.
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  • trstone
    I find the description of its performance to be a bit weird:

    "The frangible APLP ammo will bore through steel and other hard targets but will not pass through a human torso, an eight-inch-thick block of artist's clay or even several layers of drywall. Instead of passing through a body, it shatters, creating 'untreatable wounds.'"

    Ummmm....Okay. It's non-frangible enough to "bore through steel and other hard targets", yet it SHATTERS passing through soft tissue? Just how the hell does it do THAT? Is it a FMJ covering some sort of hollow-point or sintered-shot core, do you suppose?

    I confess, I'm an idiot. I just don't see how it can be done.....
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  • bobski
    geneva convention rules only apply to wars. most of what we are involved in are conflicts and terrorist searches. its not a war. thus...anything goes.

    former air operations officer SEAL Delivery Vehicle Team 2. former navy skeet team, navy rifle/pistol team member. co-owner skeetmaster tubes inc.. owner/operator professional shooting instruction.
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  • Jake_S-83
    I think the rule is if you're OCONUS you have to use FMJs. Im stationed in KS right now and we have JHPs in our 9mms.
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  • l-girl
    There are many who believe that this type bullet blew the back of John Kennedy's head off in 1963.

    After seeing the Zapruder film a zillion times, I'll never believe a 6.5 Carcano military round fired from behind Kennedy did that kind of damage to the back of his head.

    Best regards,Rich
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  • trstone
    I-girl sez (in part):

    "After seeing the Zapruder film a zillion times, I'll never believe a 6.5 Carcano military round fired from behind Kennedy did that kind of damage to the back of his head."

    Yeah....And I'd like to know how a buulet which allegedly struck from BEHIND blows a whacking big chunk of skull off the BACK of his head, with apparently nothing happening to the front, and causes his head to snap violently BACKWARD, then forward. Magic bullet, indeed...
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  • trstone
    "Buulet". Oh, jeez louise....
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  • bambihunter
    The U.S. never signed the Geneva convention did we? I do know we typically honor it regardless though.
    I too am skeptical 'bout this stuff, but I wouldn't have believed some of the things I've seen - so there's always hope... [:D]
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  • Warbirds
    U.S. is a signer of the Geneva convention. Military I.D. cards even say geneva convention identification card. And on the back it states the individuals geneva convention class.

    R/

    Dave


    How different the world would be if we could consult the veteran instead of the politician. - Henry Miller
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  • rolpher
    russian military used to purposefully incorporate a small air chamber in their AK-47 ammo. it causes the bullet to twist upon impact, ripping through a body. FMJ and all.
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