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j-f-first
,,,,,have been given three hundred antique cartridges (black powder/smokeless),,,,,most have a hole in the case (screwed to a display board),,,,majority are primed and powder will trickle out,,,,how can I make these inert/safe,,,,,they range from a .600 Nitro to the smallest .22,,,,,,,
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  • j-f-first
    I went to a gun range a while back and took along a couple boxes of 22 ammo I found when cleaning out deceased in-laws house. About one fourth of bullets would not fire. Can anyone tell me how long ammo can should last and still be dependable?
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  • jonk
    Sounds like 8X56R for the Austro-Hungarian Steyr-Mannlicher straight pulls.

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  • Tailgunner1954
    How about some dimentions?, rimmed or not?, stripper or en-bloc type clip?
    Some guys like a mag full of lead, I still prefer one round to the head.
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  • p3skyking
    Every gunshop should have Barnes "Cartridges of the World" and a good set of calipers. Only way to know for sure.

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  • Der Gebirgsjager
    I'll side with Jonk on this one--almost sure to be some of the 8x56Rmm Hungarian loaded in 1938 for the M95 Austrian-Hungarian Mannlicher rifle. Were the rounds rimmed? Is the clip an en-bloc clip, made to stay in the rifle until the last shot is fired, as opposed to a stripper clip like that for a '03 Springfield or '98 Mauser which is discarded after the rounds are loaded? Much of this ammo has a small insignia below the primer at 6 o'clock. If it was made before the Nazis took Austria over it is a tiny Austrian eagle which (jokingly) resembles the Anhauser Bush trademark. If it was after the takeover it is the Nazi eagle over swastika. The ammo is corrosive, ands most would condider it impractical to reload (berdan primed, but reloadable brass and bullets will soon be available from Graf & Sons. The bullet is not a standard .323, but rather a .329.
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  • Supreme One
    Hello, is there a little bird with the Nazi symbol under it on the bottom of the case head. That is how we get all of our Steyr M95 ammo in a Dunham's.

    Michael

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  • j-f-first
    WOW,Thanks guys !!!
    There are no other markings that I can see on the shell except for the ones I mentioned,The clip reminds me of the type used on the carcano,only slanted or angled.
    Sorry to sound so un-professional on the subject,but since I started my little shop here,I've had many new encounters with guns and ammo that I have never seen before,I guess you have to start somewhere !!
    If this man comes back with the gun,we'll all know for sure.Once again,Thanks for all of the help,John

    J&F
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  • Tailgunner1954
    OK J-f
    The clip style sounds like the one's used in a M-88 and M-95 streight pull. There were 2 rounds used in that rifle, the first being the 8x50R Austrian, which looks a lot like the 7.62x54R Russian. The second one is the 8x56R Austrian mentioned by Jonk (and the 1938 headstamp would be most likely found on this type, as the 8x50R was phased out in the 1920's).

    You would find that having a dial caliper and a copy of "Cartridges of the World" on hand would be a great help. As they replace some "Obsolete" cartridges with others in each edition having more than one edition can be handy also (BTW in the back they list cartridges by there dimentions). #10 is supposed to be out now, #9 is still widely available. Another good referance book is John Donnelly's "Handloaders Manual of Cartridge Conversions"
    Some guys like a mag full of lead, I still prefer one round to the head.
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  • j-f-first
    Thanks,does anyone know where I can find these,I usually buy from SOG,& Century,but I don't recall seeing either of these listed in the catalogs,Thanks again guys,John

    J&F
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  • Der Gebirgsjager
    You can get both books from Brownells, 800-741-0015.
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  • j-f-first
    Sorry, I wasn't more specific,I meant where can I find the ammo ?

    J&F
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