beretta 391 vs benelli
whats the go[:)]d and bad[V] also how does recoil system work on beretta vs benelli?
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Both excellent arms, both in the upper price/quality scale. I have an older beretta 390 and it works very well. I have shot the older benelli and it too is a quality gun. The beretta is gas operated and the bennelli's, for the most part are recoil operated. True to their claim, you can go from magnums to trap loads in the same magazine without a stop. My beretta was a little finicky at first. I called Maryland and was told it was the lube in my cold climate. Used Break Free libe on it, doesn't miss a beat now. Benelli is now imported/owned by beretta. The beretta also has shims to be able to change the cast, drop and length of stock. Don't know on the benelli. Some is a matter of preference and if it fits you. I think the benelli may be a tougher gun, tho it felt heavier to me as well.
Haven't heard anything bad about either of them.0 -
I'm not sure the Benelli is heavier, I do know it was lighter than my ol' Remington 1100 (which only shot 2 3/4" shells).
You'll get various opinions about this, one of the best things to do is to shoot 'em both if possible. If you're anywhere near S.E. Kansas or Central Oklahoma I'll be glad to let you shoot mine...
One of the best things about the Benelli is the recoil operated system http://www.benelliusa.com/innovations/inertia.tpl. It is literally a snap to clean, check out the number (and size) of parts in the operating system. It sure beats the old double-bar/seal of a gas system. This Benelli inertia recoil system is different than the old recoiling barrel type shotguns and pretty much all other types for that matter. It's a lot more reliable.
The Benelli comes with (or can be bought) the shims, although I must have a standard hold because it was right on from day one.
It'll shoot all the legal species of birds, it'd take big game shooting slugs, it works on small game, and if you really want to reach out a little further then you can get a rifled slug barrel for them and have it all.
As I said on the other post, I don't think you can go wrong with either of these two guns, but I do think the Benelli Super Black Eagle is the better firearm.
In fact, if for some reason I had to get rid of all of my guns except one, I'd keep the Benelli - honest truth.0 -
At least in scandinavia - Benelli does come as standard with the shims to adjust the stock.
One thing worth mentioning - is with the Benelli Super Black Eagle, you might need to run through a case of the heavy shells in order to "break it in".
By using that amount of shells, it gradually becomes "Broken in" so it will take lighter and lighter loads.
But generally they say it needs 1 1/8 oz loads - when properly "broken in" or having been used some - it will take lighter loads.
It might eat the 1 oz loads as well - if you like the light loads, I know of a spring-set you can use, to make sure it will take the softer loads.
But it all depends on what you're going to use it for.
With waterfowl, turkeys and such - you almost always need the heavy loads. Personally I don't mind the recoil that the heavy loads generate, but the gun is just about the same weight than any other semi-auto - perhaps slightly lighter, yes.
There are some great guns, designed for trap-skeet (claytarget) shooting as well as some extra light edditions of the regular M1 semi-auto. Something for every need - they are available with camo-patterning/colouring, with fiber-stock and offcourse wooden stock.
In Denmark, the Benelli's come with a 5 year standard warranty (I don't know about the US) - the 2 dealers who I know have had Benelli on their shelf, as well as the scandinavian wholesaler/distributor, from whom I bought mine, says it's the most rediculous warranty - they've never had a use for it so far.
I've never really handled the Beretta A390/A391 too much, I used the A390ST on occation, it feels great, shoots very nicely and I hear very nice things about the type also.
But also hear it's a drag to clean after a day at the range or after a big hunt.
If you don't mind all that - as I hear it, it's probably a coin-toss between the two - but I still know what I'd pick in a heartbeat.
Gas-loader vs. Recoil-operated - there's a big difference in complexity of the two.
But Recoil-operated has the fewest parts of the two - as BambiHunter implies.
Benelli is so easy to disassemble, easy to clean, easy to lubricate, easy with it's few parts that can come loose or needs to be removed for cleaning and my favorite... easy to love.!!!
Don't do anything that I've allready done - That'd be just plain STOOOOOOPID.0 -
I need to reply. My experience with the benelli was extremely limited.....and cold at that. The one I shot was dressed for waterfowling, ie, 3 1/2", composite stock, long tube. Compared to my wood, prissy, upland 390, it was a little heavier. But it shot trap loads like a champ, and swung nicely. It was a little more spendy at that time, I think the price difference has come closer together,espec. on an apples for apples basis.
Unless he's changed lately, John Krueger shoots a Bennelli for his exposition shooting. Other than an extended magazine, it's off the shelf stock. He shoots it upside down, behind his back, from the
hip, ect. Impressive enough until you realize he's only got the thumb and a stump of finger on his right hand. I guess I don't know that all guns will function 100% espec. when held upside down.0
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