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Geneo
I have a 12 ga. model 12 nickel steel barrel. #60360. In Madis's book Winchester Model 12 He claims this gun is "very rare and valuable collectors item." Can anybody provide more info about the value of this gun? Thanks
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  • Geneo
    I just traded 200 in labor for this shotgun, Ser#3288xx, 60-70 percent blueing with light pitting on receiver, 20 Ga., nickel barrel, wood is in good condition and the moving parts and bore are in perfect condition. What year was this manufactured.


    Emmett
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  • duckhunter
    WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW?? LOTS OF WINCHESTER EXPERTS ON THIS SITE.

    I WOULD RATHER BE DUCK HUNTING.
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  • Bert H.
    quote:Originally posted by Geneo
    I have a 12 ga. model 12 nickel steel barrel. #60360. In Madis's book Winchester Model 12 He claims this gun is "very rare and valuable collectors item." Can anybody provide more info about the value of this gun? Thanks


    I don't remember old George saying that in his book, but if he did, he was stretching the truth just a bit.

    Winchester produced just over 2 MILLION Model 1912/12s from 1913 - 1982 (yours should be marked "1912"). Nickel steel was in use for the barrels until the mid to late 1930s. Your shotgun was made sometime in 1914. Unless it is something other than a standard Field Grade gun, the value is going to be under $1000 (even if it is in mint condition). Collector value is predicated on the graded condition, and which model variation you have.

    Bert H.

    Real Men use a SINGLE-SHOT!
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  • only winchesters
    What's unque about yours is it's a first year 12 ga. The barrel should be stamped with Model 1912. If it's stamped Md 12 it has had the barrel replaced. A nickle steel gun will bring more money than a win. proof steel gun in the same condition. It should also have a forearm with only 14 rings in it, the early ones had the short forearm/action slide, it was about1916/17 they went to the longer forearm with 18 rings.The butt stock is the early pearch belly style with a long wrist and small pistol grip or just a plain straight pull, (no pistol grip. Now if you have checkered wood, maybe with some Black Diamonds, you have thetop of the line Winchester. Back then, they were plain or solid rib guns. WE really need to know exactly what you have. Condition, barrel lenght, choke, plain, rib, see where i'm going? If you have just the plain barrel average condition, and original,$250-$350. By the way I have one made about a week before yours, #6008x. So tell us what you have. Regards Dave
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  • Geneo
    Thanks for the info. More about the gun.....Barrel is stamped Mod.1912-12GA Mod......forearm has 14 rings........I think butt stock is longwrist and small pistol grip....no checkered wood or black dimonds...no rib......30" barrel....looks like receiver is also nickle.........What year was this gun produced? I can send pictures.
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  • Bert H.
    Hello Geneo...

    1914 was the year of manufacture, and it appears you have a Standard Field grade gun in normal used condition. Your shotgun is designed for 2 3/4" shells only, and NEVER shoot steel shot shells through it!

    Pictures aren't really necessary in this case. Retail value will be in the $300 - $350 range.

    Bert H.

    Real Men use a SINGLE-SHOT!
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  • only winchesters
    Good morning Geneo. Like I said earlier what is unique about you Md 1912, is it is a first year 12 ga. and it has the short action slide/forearm assemby. Not many of these around today. The one thing you said was "the receiver looks nickel too". That tells me there isn't much blue left, and it's mostly silver in color. The top of the receiver is non-grooved also, it should be a nice full radius, with the matting strip down the center of it. Assuming it hasn't been shot to death, (remove the barrel assy. from the receiver and look to see where the barrel adjustment ring is). If it's still on the firt or second notch you are ingood shape. Check the wrist area of the butt stock where it mates to the receiver and look for cracks.
    Like I said in my first post, if it's all original, being a first year gun, a Md 12 nut like myselfor someone else may give you a little more than the standard going rate for these old nickel steel guns. If there is rust or pitting big draw back. If you want to email me some pics, i Can give you a closer idea of value, but without seeing it in average condition somewhere between $275-$350. Again there may be someone looking for a first year gun who may pay a little more. Regards Dave
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