cj hamilton and sons
does anybody have any information on a gun made by cj hamilton and sons in plymouth mich. its a number 27 in a 22 caliber patented in 1908. anything would help
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tr, I thought that there was a blurb in The American Rifleman regarding Hamilton rifles this year. However I don't see the article listed in the 2003 index which comes in the December issue. Perhaps it was last year. Do you have access to the magazine for the last couple of years? If not, I'll try to find it for you.
OleDuk0 -
C J Hamilton was a engineer who designed and patented a inexpensive .22 rimfire rifle in the late 1890's. It was made largely from sheet metal. As they were only made for about 10 years, they weren't particularly successful.
There were (3) different models, the Model 27 you have was the basic model.
Your patent date kind of confuses me? As the production of the Hamilton rifle was almost over by that date?0 -
I have one, and it is made almost entirely with stamped sheet metal. Even the barrel is cast, lined with brass then wrapped with sheet metal. Hamilton, I believe also made an inexpensive pump rifle and a couple other models in addition to the 27.
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Old? First you forget names; then you forget faces; then you forget to pull your zipper up; then you forget to pull your zipper down.0 -
ned schwing's book 'standard catalog of firearms list the c.j.hamilton & sons as being in business in plymouth, michagan from 1898 until about 1945. he lists 14 different models and between 1900 and 1911 they produced over a million rifles. some models he gives the date of introduction and the date of discontinous but most are listed by just the date of introduction. the model 27 with wire stock was introduced in 1906 and the model 27 with a wood stock was introduced in 1908. this book while not perfect does cover a lot of manufacturer other's ignore. he even has a section on cresent and their many brand name shotguns.
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Don't mean to disagree with Bill, but I was using John Walter's book as a reference when I made my post.
Walter stated that the Hamilton rifles were "comparatively unsuccessful , and work had ceased by 1910".
Granted he's English, and might not be that familiar with obscure American manufactures, but I've found him to be a accurate and reliable in the past.0 -
One point that I really don't know the answer to. Many of the Hamilton rifles were produced with short 10-16 inch bbls. I am of the opinion that these would be a SBR under the NFA. I queried an ATF agent a while back about this and never got a definitive answer. His answer was he thought it was considered the same as the old auto/burgular or gamegetter under the NFA but when I pointed out the brass bore and age it raised questions he couldn't answer.
AN ARMED SOCIETY IS A POLITE SOCIETY0 -
I was under the impression that these Hamilton rifles were
sometimes given as premiums for selling Cloverine salve in
the forties. I have one, and almost remember getting it from
them. nun0
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