COLT LW COMMANDER
Can anyone help me? I need to know when my LW Commander was made. Serial #CLW 026002. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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eschatz@fast.net
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eschatz@fast.net
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Eschatz.... Welcome to the forum.
Your Colt was made in about the middle of 1976.0 -
Is that a series 70 gun? Can you post some photos? 
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Here we go again! There are no "Series 70" Commanders, Combat Commanders or Supers. The Mark IV/Series 70 nomenclature was introduced to indicate those pistols with the collett bushing. Since no Commanders, Combat Commanders or Supers ever had the collett bushing, they cannot be "Series 70." Yes, I know the Blue Book states otherwise, but it is just another error in the Blue Book. The Colt section is full of them, and I suppose the other sections with which I am less familar also have them. You will not find a Commander, Combat Commander or Super with "Series 70" on the slide, as you will with Government Models and Gold Cups.
I think part of the problem is that there were a series of serial numbers starting in 1970 that began with a "70," thus causing many to think that meant "Series 70." It did not. It was just a new serial number range applied to several types of pistols, including "real" Series 70 pistols. The fact that there are Series 80 Commanders, Combat Commanders and Supers also causes many to assume there had to have been Series 70 pistols of the same type. There were not.
Remember, these are Colts we are discussing, and little makes sense with Colts!0 -
Thanks for feedback. As far as the no such thing as a series 70 commander, I apologizr for that, but I thought I saw a such marked combat commander in my local gun shop last week. I would love to post a photo, but I am not sure how to attach it here. if you can look up an acution that ended already it was item number 13253328. It is pristine. Looks never fired. The blue isn't even worn on bolt face or hammer or disconnect bar on slide. What a gun. Thanks for the info. 0 -
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Judge, you are forgetting that Colt did make the 38super in the Series 70 Government Model. 0 -
hunter7737, I have never seen a .38 Super with a collett bushing. If it does not have a collett bushing, it cannot be a Series 70. Please tell me where you ever found evidence of a .38 Super with a collett bushing and the slide marked "Series 70." 0 -
Judge, take a look at AA #5196244. I have seen several of these. I think Colt made them from 1972 to 1982. The barrels were fat at the muzzel back to about 2 inches and then tappered. That way it used the same bushings as the 45. I have not seen the bushing, so i can't say for sure that it is collet, but i believe it is. This is definitely a COLT MK IV Series 70, as identified by the markings on the slide and barrel. 0 -
Yep sure looks like a Series 70 38 Super to me.
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Yep, and if I had to choose between the Blue Book of Gun Values and some words typed by some unknown person on a web site for correct info, I believe I'd have to go with the Blue Book. 0 -
It might be to your advantage to listen to what you are told by Judge Colt...... After you have been here long enough to find out a small basic fact about this person, you will find you haven't the slightest idea about whom you are downgrading. Any of the Forum Members here that have been around long enough all know Judge Colt has forgotten more about the Colt .45 Pistols than most folks ever learn in a lifetime! Sometimes it might be good to investigate, take a good look at the facts and then see for yourself BEFORE you talk bad about someone.......
By the Way, when I last talked to Steve Fjestad at the Browning Show in Ogden, Utah, in August this year, we discussed some of the "errors" in Steve's Blue Book and he is very aware of numerous ones! He is correcting many of them in the next edition.....some that were pointed out by not only myself, but also some Judge Colt has exposed! Not a problem.....you don't have to stoop to apologize......but, your ignorance is definitely speaking for you.....!!!!
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Thank you RP for your strong support, but in this case it is unjustified, and my face is red. I am clearly wrong on the full-size .38 Super, and as I was posting my challenge to see the proof of a Series 70 .38 Super, I was thinking I probably should check my catalog collection before being so positive. I should have stopped at there being no Series 70 Commanders or Combat Commanders (of any chambering), which is what I had in mind when I started my response. I then got to thinking about other possible Colts of the 1970s that did not have the collett bushing and the reintroduced Service Ace and the Super popped into mind. Unfortunately, I did not check my memory with my catalog collection before posting on the Super.
The mind dims with age and I appologize to all for the error. I asked for proof and got it. I stand corrected on the Series 70/Mark IV .38 Super issue. However, I do not concede that there were ever any Series 70 Commanders or Combat Commanders, and the Blue Book remains wrong on that issue.
Incidently, I believe what collectors call "fat barrel" Supers are Pre-Series 70 guns. (I am not positive so I will check with Sheldon's excellent .38 Super book to be sure.) I believe the barrel is "fat" its entire length and these guns use the same bushing as the Government Model, whereas the Series 70/Mark IV .38 Super has just a "fat end" on the barrel as described so well by hunter7377.
Again, I apologize for my error. My credibility on matters Colt is certainly damaged by this error, and I will have to be more careful in the future when posting on these "modern" guns with which I am far less familiar than Pre-War stuff.0 -
Come'on, Judge! Your still the judge 'round here[;)]
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