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454 Casull I want your opinions

Wolftrap
I'm thinking of getting a 454 Casull handgun. I now hunt with a 44 Rem Mag Customized Super Blackhawk Old Model. My first choice at this time looks like a Freedom Arms Field Grade with a 7 1/2" barrel. With wooden grips because my hands are to small for a double action or large grips. On my Super Blackhawk I use either the standard grips or a set of customs that are trimmed down so I can reach the trigger.

I want to here everyones ideas. From stay with what I now have to this is my pet load, choice of sights ETC.

My 44 is very accurate, and pleasent for me to shoot. I put between 700 and a 1000 rounds a year through it.

Please put your comments here or E-Mail me at Wolftrap97@aol.com
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  • shoey
    I know a guy who uses a raging bull in .454 Casull and loves the gun...other than that, havent heard much about it...

    shoey
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  • chorkie
    WOLFTRAP,
    I TOO HAVE A 44 (SW 29) AND A 454 (FREEDOM ARMS). I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU ONLY GET THE 454 ONLY IF YOU ARE VERY COMFORTABLE SHOOTING YOUR 44. THE DIFFERANCE BETWEEN THE TWO IS LIKE NIGHT AND DAY. I CAN SHOOT MY 44 WITH FULL HOUSE 240 GR LOADS FOR ABOUT 100 RDS WITHOUT TOO MUCH PROBLEM, BUT I USUALLY GIVE UP ON THE 454 AFTER 25-30 ROUNDS. AS FOR AMMO , I USE RELOADS FROM WISCONSIN CARTRIDGE CO., THEY MAKE A PRETTY HOT LOAD WITH NEW STARLINE BRASS AND A 300 GR XTP BULLET THAT I LIKE ALOT. BTW-YOU CAN'T GO WRONG WITH A FREEDOM ARMS , THEY ARE OUTSTANDING IN FIT, FINISH AND MATERIALS.[^][:D][:p]

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  • uhoh
    suggest you try 460 Rowland in a 1911 first. The 1911 is a practical carry gun, while the 454 is not. The 1911 offers rapid fire and concealment, the 454 does not. If you just like lots of recoil, the 460 offers plenty of that. :-) This makes more sense if you already have the 1911, of course. Then all you have to do is pay $50 to have a fully supported barrel rechambered to the .060" longer case of the Rowland. Such barrels can be had for under $100, used, just by posting want ads on the Net forums. In an 8.5" long gun, the Rowland offers 230 gr jhp's, at 1350 fps. A 4" barreled .44 is 9.5" long, you know.
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  • Wolftrap
    To those who have already added a little input Thank You.

    I do hunt with my 44 Super Blackhawk, so I don't worry about how to hide it. I do agree that a 1911 (In my case a Colt 1911-A1) is a very good weapon when you are hunting two legged criters. I did this for a few years. Now I'm hunting Antalope, Mule Deer, Elk Etc. They seem to be larger then the other kind and don't seem to shoot back yet.

    I have to agree that 100 full house rounds out of a 44 Rem Mag do seem to make a few thinks soar. But when hunting if you have to shoot that many rounds go get a rifle and put the Hip Canon away. I am just looking for some quick one shot kills at 100 to 200 yards with a handgun (Hip Canon). So far I like the Freedom Arms field grade guns. But I'll take a good look at that Raging Bull. I just don't know if I can reach the trigger on a double action.

    Please send me info on loads and what you have used them on also.

    So thanks again Chorkie and Shoey.

    uhoh Please E-mail my about what you have to modify on a 1911-A1 to fit up this here 460 Rowland.

    My E-mail wolftrap97@aol.com
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  • axlerfan
    Love mine! full power loads are kinda punishing if you shoot a lot...winchester loads give a bit more punch than 44's but dont beat you up so badly. fit, finish and accuracy are excellent.
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  • Throckmorton
    If you haven't shot one yet,try to shoot some one's gun before purchasing.I shot my first one a month or so ago,and while it was fun,the recoil was monsterous...not painful,but monsterous!! :)
    Of course I did not stop after the first round,but neither did I rush out and by one.! :)

    Throckmortons' the alias,cas is the game.
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  • CS8161
    I would highly reecommend the Freedom Arms. They are not unpleasant to shoot as the grip shape allows the gun to roll in your hand during recoil. Don't get the pachmayr grips, go for the wood or laminate.
    Also the Ruger Redhawk in 454 is a fine revolver, with six shots as opposed to Freedom's five shots, much less money, double action so if you are being chased up a tree by a bear you can get your rounds off quicker!

    Chris8161
    Admit nothing, deny everything, demand proof!
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  • roysha
    I suspect you have pretty much made up your mind to get one, but just want a little mental reinforcement. My suggestion is to go ahead and if you find you don't like it, you can sell it. They are a popular item so you won't get hurt too badly in the transaction and will have satisfied your desire. It costs to play. As far as long range "conventional handgun" (not XP-100s, TCs, etc chambered for rifle cartridges), shooting in field conditions I'm not even going to get started because my fingers will get tired typing.

    BEER IS PROOF THAT GOD LOVES US AND WANTS US TO BE HAPPY!
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  • DRECO
    You might consider a TC Encore in 454. I have a 15" barrel and it is a handful but manageable, and a big step up from a 44 mag.
    Another option is the 45/70 in the same Encore.

    DRECO
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  • gruntled
    Reaching the trigger is no problem with either the Ruger or the Raging Bull as both can be fired single action & the Raging Bull has the advantage of the built-in compensator.
    The ammo is expensive but they have the advantage of being able to use .45 Long Colts. Reloading the .45s can produce just about anything a .44 mag can do.
    I don't remember about the Raging Bull but the Ruger has built-in scope mounts in case you really want to try 200 yd shots. (Fun for targets but waaay out of my league for game.) The Freedom Arms revolvers are fine guns but VERY expensive.
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  • 4C_Ranch
    Wolf my man, I have a Freedom Arms in .454. I am not recoil sensitive at all (my main working guns are a .338 and a .45-70 carbine) but this one does hurt with full loads, nothing like a .44. It rolls some, but the rearward push on it is tremendous. I dont shoot it for fun but I live in Grizzly country so its sort of a necessary evil. I had mine magnaported and that helps the muzzle rise alot. You still get the rearward push. Some suggestions:

    1. The tolerances of the Freedom Arms revolver are very tight, especially the chambers. Ive had best results with Redding dies in these guns. Likewise I would not recommend shooting .45 Colt in it unless you buy the auxillery cylinder, even though it is possible.

    2. The best powder Ive found is Accurate No 9. 27 gr seems to be a decent load.

    Those revolvers are very popular up here and seem to hold their value very well. Good luck!
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