Winchester model 1892 takedown
I am looking for info on a 92 I have with a low 4 digit ser#. Is it one of the 1st take down models produced?
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The gun is in 44 40 and has an octagonal barrel 0 -
Dick,
According to the references I have, the Model 1892 was not available as a Takedown until October 1893 (approx. serial number 30,000). I highly recommend that you confirm the authenticity of your rifle by obtaining a factory letter for it from the Cody Firearms Museum. The Model 1892 was the first production rifle to utilize the Takedown system that we all recognize. The Model 1886 was available as a Takedown in April of 1894.
Bert H.
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I also own a takedown '92 with a low number ( 16,000's )which puts it well before most "references" say is possible. It is also a 44-40 with an octagon barrel. I think what happened is that Winchester was experimenting with takedown mechanisms and pulled receivers off the line after they had been serial numbered. If you get the factory letter, I'm sure it will say that your rifle wasn't SHIPPED until 1893 or later. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Rippe
I also own a takedown '92 with a low number ( 16,000's )which puts it well before most "references" say is possible. It is also a 44-40 with an octagon barrel. I think what happened is that Winchester was experimenting with takedown mechanisms and pulled receivers off the line after they had been serial numbered. If you get the factory letter, I'm sure it will say that your rifle wasn't SHIPPED until 1893 or later.
Rippe... That is a very good point, and it is most likely the case.
For those who don't have the web address or contact information for the Cody Firearms Museum, here it is - http://www.bbhc.org/firearms/index.cfm
Bert H.
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Ned Schwing states that on the model 1890 Winchesters, the receivers were serial #d and placed in a box. Then the builder would just use out of the box randomly. So the serial # just gives you an indication when the receiver was manufactured, not the complete rifle. He said some could be quite out of sequence. I have noticed some roll die discrepancies and placement by serial #.
Perhaps this is what happened with the 92s.
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Another possibility......Model 53's were also made in 44-40 and were available as takedowns. Nearly all 53's have four digit numbers. If the takedown 53 was rebarreled with an octagonal takedown '92 barrel and forend, you'd have exactly what he is describing. Probably not likely, but possible. The way to tell is by the tang stamping on the receiver. Rippe 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Rippe
I also own a takedown '92 with a low number ( 16,000's )which puts it well before most "references" say is possible. It is also a 44-40 with an octagon barrel. I think what happened is that Winchester was experimenting with takedown mechanisms and pulled receivers off the line after they had been serial numbered. If you get the factory letter, I'm sure it will say that your rifle wasn't SHIPPED until 1893 or later.
I also have a '92' with a low number (14000's) 44-40 octagon barrel. Just sent for a factory letter from Cody. Markings under reciever are U. S. C. Co/ 9-13-93 #218. E. Jutras0 -
quote:Originally posted by wundudnee
Ned Schwing states that on the model 1890 Winchesters, the receivers were serial #d and placed in a box. Then the builder would just use out of the box randomly. So the serial # just gives you an indication when the receiver was manufactured, not the complete rifle. He said some could be quite out of sequence. I have noticed some roll die discrepancies and placement by serial #.
Perhaps this is what happened with the 92s.
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Old? First you forget names; then you forget faces; then you forget to pull your zipper up; then you forget to pull your zipper down.
Same thing with Colt Scout .22s. The first commercially produced Colt Scout had a serial number of 1000Q, but some "frames" were made and serial numbered beginning with 1Q. One of these low pre-commercial made frames sat in the bottom of the bin, or box, at the Colt manufacturing facility for about six years before it hit the market as a Colt Scout Buntline.0
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