WWII japanese rifles
A member of the family has two WWII Japanese rifles brought from Japan in late 1945.
The first from my research on the internet appears to be an ARISAKA Type 99, caliber 7.7 with serial number 68375 and has a canvas sling with quick disconnect links attached. Also has a cleaning rod in place. I know it was fired once in the States to prove it wasn't "booby trapped". Does this rifle have any market value?
The second is a shorter(38in)and I believe older rifle of smaller caliber. This has not been fired in the States because ammunition was not available, I believe. It has a bayonet permanently installed under the barrel with a screw driver shapped point.The serial number appears to be 11706 and it has a marking like an open flower forward of the bolt plus some additional japanese markings. There is a hook like piece at the end of the barrel that looks like a device used to stack a group of rifles when camped. Anyone have a suggestions to where I might go to find information that would allow me to indentify the manufacturer and type/model and value?
The first from my research on the internet appears to be an ARISAKA Type 99, caliber 7.7 with serial number 68375 and has a canvas sling with quick disconnect links attached. Also has a cleaning rod in place. I know it was fired once in the States to prove it wasn't "booby trapped". Does this rifle have any market value?
The second is a shorter(38in)and I believe older rifle of smaller caliber. This has not been fired in the States because ammunition was not available, I believe. It has a bayonet permanently installed under the barrel with a screw driver shapped point.The serial number appears to be 11706 and it has a marking like an open flower forward of the bolt plus some additional japanese markings. There is a hook like piece at the end of the barrel that looks like a device used to stack a group of rifles when camped. Anyone have a suggestions to where I might go to find information that would allow me to indentify the manufacturer and type/model and value?
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Try this link and ask your question in the section pertaining to Japanese rifles:
http://pub31.ezboard.com/bcurioandrelicfirearmsforum
"'To initiate a war of aggression...is the supreme international crime.'
Nuremburg Tribunal, 1946"
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Believe your second rifle is the "Model 1911 Caralry Carbine".
It's chambered for the 6.5 x 50mm Japanese Rifle cartridge.
It was in production for over 20 years in various Japanese Military Arsenals.0 -
the flower is a chrysanthemum. Many of these were removed at the end of the war as a way of saving face for the emporer (his mark). Most of these rifles do not have great value, although a model with the flower is of higher value. What you want is an early production model (say 1942 or earlier) as the later production were not machined as well due to shortages in time and material, and one with intact flower. A model that falls under these criteria and is over 90% would hope to bring $500-%750. 0 -
The one with the folding bayo (6.5) is a Type 44. These are sought after and come in three variations.
There are several variations of the Type 99 (7.7).
Ammo is available for both.
Best reference book to date is Fred Hunnycutts "MILITARY RIFLES OF JAPAN"
Don't spoterize either as both have value.
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Skyking is correct on ALL counts! The T-99 is relatively common. In excellent condition, matching numbers and intact chrysanthemum it is worth about $250. Subtract $50 each for average condition, no mum, no match.
The T-44 may be quite valuable. Start at $450, and use the same criteria for deductions.
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