powders, cold temps and the 25-06
Has anyone had any experience with the 25-06 in cold weather? I am specifically looking for a cold weather powder. I tried to put between 50 and 54 grains of h450 with a Federal 215M primer behind a Nosler 115 gr Partition and started getting pressure indices at 52 grains and no accuracy (10 degrees Fahrenheit). I have a 26" varmint barrel and don't know whether I should go slower (4831, 7828, 3100 or Reloder 22) or faster (4350). I was hoping to get the 115 up to or around 3100 with handloads. Most of the literature on the 25-06 says the 4350 is best but I wonder about performance in cold climes. Gonna try some 4350 next but any input would be helpful.
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Ihave only used 4831 with 117gr bullets and Accurate MRP with 1oo gr. bulluts. Accurate MRP was a limited run of powder very close to 3100.
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i dont have a 25-06 so cant say on what powder to use for it. i also deal with and do a lot of my shooting in the winter...i use hodgdon extreme powders...i have found in my experince that the imr powders that i have used dont do very well in cold imho. the temps i am talking about here in SD in the winter go from 0 to -30 deg below zero 0 -
Try the Hodgodon Extreme powders. It is insensitive to temps. I most of their powders may now be of the Extreme variety.
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stickman, Try some loads using Hodgdon's VARGET! Starting at 37 grains up to 41.0 grains. Varget is an EXTREME powder and also gives outstanding accuracy in a wide range of chamberings from the 222 family up thru the 308 family. Easy to measure too! GHD 0 -
quote:Originally posted by cowdoc
i dont have a 25-06 so cant say on what powder to use for it. i also deal with and do a lot of my shooting in the winter...i use hodgdon extreme powders...i have found in my experince that the imr powders that i have used dont do very well in cold imho. the temps i am talking about here in SD in the winter go from 0 to -30 deg below zero0 -
cowdoc...I am from Aberdeen
quote:Originally posted by cowdoc
i dont have a 25-06 so cant say on what powder to use for it. i also deal with and do a lot of my shooting in the winter...i use hodgdon extreme powders...i have found in my experince that the imr powders that i have used dont do very well in cold imho. the temps i am talking about here in SD in the winter go from 0 to -30 deg below zero0 -
Thanks for the info...I will pick some up today (Extreme). 0 -
I just chrono'd my .25-06 this morning with 115 NBT's and 52gr IMR 4831 and Fed 215 Mag Match out of a 22 7/16" Tikka T3 in 32 degree temp at 3150fps. I've chrono'd IMR powders in cold temps and have never noticed any major drop. I think it is mostly ball powders that have a reputation for temp sensitivity. 0 -
stick man i am east of Pierre bout 45 miles near the river
cletus85 32 is warm for where me and stickman live this time of year, where i have had trouble with the imr numbers that i used was well below zero... one time it was 25 below zero got the 270win out of the pickup which had not been run for the day so everything was -25.. to shoot a coyote that was aprox 100 yds away ...pulled the trigger and was more like a pop gun going off the bullet hit snow about half way to the coyote i do not remember what imr number i used in them reloads for sure. either 4831 or 4350. have not had that ever happen with hodgdon extreme powders yet. there maybe some imr numbers that might be allright but i would'nt know what they are0 -
If you feel Hodgdon is so much better by all means use it. I used to coyote hunt alot and have shot IMR powders at sub zero temps with no problems. Yes it gets that cold in MO. Not typically in deer season however. I have some H 4350 and may try it myself, but my load for deer season is ready. 0
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