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birch46123
my grandmother asked me to find out about what a gun she has could be worth it is a j steven 32 long rifle pat1794 apr ser49066 it is in good shape i shot it many times years ago it is lever action single shot
thank you
chris
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  • birch46123
    Need Help. I have a Pistol with a 18" barrel. Brake down, looks like a 22 cal. It has a attachable metal frame butt that slides and screw lock at the bottom grip. Look's like a rifle when together. What is the model of this, Serial 3506 all number match. Looked around and have not seen this.

    Thanks
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  • BOBBYWINS
    Need a little more info birch.
    You state it is a .32 Long Rifle.
    Did you mean .22 LR,or.32 ?
    Is it a "heavy barrel"?
    Are there any other markings on it?
    Does it have a "crescent"(concave) butt plate?
    About how much does it weigh?
    These answers will help to narrow it down.
    You also stated a Pat. date of 1794.
    I'm guessing you meant 1894.

    BTW,Welcome to the forum.
    BW

    IT'S WHAT PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THEMSELVES THAT MAKES THEM AFRAID.
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  • rockford
    quote:Originally posted by BOBBYWINS
    Need a little more info birch.
    You state it is a .32 Long Rifle.
    Did you mean .22 LR,or.32 ?
    Is it a "heavy barrel"?
    Are there any other markings on it?
    Does it have a "crescent"(concave) butt plate?
    About how much does it weigh?
    These answers will help to narrow it down.
    You also stated a Pat. date of 1794.
    I'm guessing you meant 1894.

    BW

    IT'S WHAT PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THEMSELVES THAT MAKES THEM AFRAID.


    Sounds like it may be an "Old Model" Favorite, before the model 1915. Think that date refers to a month 17, year 98 as in 1898.

    Fred
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  • rockford
    quote:Originally posted by birch46123
    my grandmother asked me to find out about what a gun she has could be worth it is a j steven 32 long rifle pat1794 apr ser49066 it is in good shape i shot it many times years ago it is lever action single shot
    thank you
    chris


    Sorry meant to say the date of 1894.

    Fred
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  • BOBBYWINS
    rockford,
    You may be right,but I keep hearing
    this voice saying Model 44 Ideal.

    birch,
    Is it a "Takedown"?(Does it have a large
    knurled thumscrew just in front of the lever?)

    We'll figure this out yet.[:D]
    BW

    IT'S WHAT PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THEMSELVES THAT MAKES THEM AFRAID.
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  • birch46123
    I did not know i had a stuttering problem i gave you the exact pat 1794 apr .32 long rifle. It is a cresent butt plate barrel is heavy. i do not know of any other markings ill have to look tomarrow and weigh it to i am 100% sure it said 1794 but will dubble check and take pics i think there is a thum screw in front of trigger. i know nothing about guns other than aiming pullinging a trigger and cleaning it.

    thank you for your reply
    Birch
    [:D]
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  • nord
    What you don't have is a 1794 patent!

    Not only was Stevens yet to be a twinkle in coporate eyes, the .32 caliber shell was yet to be invented, as was the process of interchangeable component manufacture, as was percussion ignition.

    What you do have is either an Ideal or a Favorite (best guess). If you look just a bit closer you'll see that the patent date is stamped as follows:

    Pat. "Apr 17 89"

    Obviously, I can't remember the correct month, but that's one of the ways these guns were marked. I know of no case where the patent year is listed as anything other than the last two numerals.

    Nord
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  • mrmike08075
    its chambered in .32 long rimfire, and will also shoot the .32 rimfire, and the .32 short rimfire. these chamberings were quite common from 1870-1910. you purchased a "combo" set of a revolver and rifle in the same chambering. many were later converted to accept centerfire cartridges of the same diameter.

    best regards, mike.

    What other dungeon is so dark as ones own heart, what jailer so inexorable as ones own mind.
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  • birch46123
    I would agree that it is apr 17 1894 knowing that it isnt a flintlock and the numbers read as pat1794 apr ser49066 so what is the differance between a favorite and ideal about what could it be worth
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  • rockford
    quote:Originally posted by birch46123
    I would agree that it is apr 17 1894 knowing that it isnt a flintlock and the numbers read as pat1794 apr ser49066 so what is the differance between a favorite and ideal about what could it be worth


    If you are able to correctly weigh the rifle, favorite weights around 5 to 6 pounds, the ideal should weigh in at 7 or more pounds. Did you ever describe the butt plate of your gun? If it is steel and has a curvature, usually called a crescent butt plate, then most likely it is the heavier gun. If however the butt plate is black material, then most likely a Favorite. The type of sights also can make a difference in value of the gun, often they will be found with tang sights. Finally, condition is still a big factor in determining the value of anything.

    Without someone knowledgable actually seeing the rifle, a correct valuation is not easy.

    Fred
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  • nord
    Strangely, not much difference in value between a Favorite and an Ideal. Both were boy's guns. Both were inexpensive, though of good quality.

    I happen to have a .25 cal Favorite with a ring-type takedown. Oiled stock, iron sights, and in absolutely excellent shape. Offers seem to run about $125.00, but I'm not interested.

    Nord
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