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rlfcjf
I have never tackled removing a barrel before, but would like to
give it a try.. Would like to remove the barrel from a Winchester
model 94 , serial number in the 3 million range.. I have a pretty
good vise but need to know what other tools i would need , like
any special wrenches..

also would like to know does the barrel go in the vise or the
receiver?

is there any place on the internet that actually gives one step
by step instructions...

thanks

rick
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  • p3skyking
    It can be done. When I was growing up and learning. I used pipe vises and plumbers wrenches padded with lead, oak, or leather. Now I use a real barrel vise (barrel goes in vise, action is turned) and an action wrench.
    I recommend that you buy (or make) the proper tools instead of jury rigging something that MAY work.

    It does help if you can pour lead to make the proper size spacers though.

    I have R/R'ed FAL, M1 Carbine, Revolvers, and will soon (this weekend) a Mauser and a few Arisakas.

    Self-reliance seems to be going away I've notced, even from forum contributors, but this is a little piece you don't have to let slip if you have the courage to try.

    See Brownells catalog for pictures and advice.

    Good luck!



    A man who starts imagining that others think good because he does is simply out of his mind
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  • Pelican
    Ok rlfcjf, I'ma gonna walk ya through it step by step.

    Get in yer pickup (ya do got a pickup don't ya) and head down to Wal-Mart. Pick up a set of them there ramp things like ya use to change yer oil with. Go back home and park on fairly level ground. Now get yer neighbor to hold the rifle with the receiver centered on the top area of the passenger side ramp (passenger side very important) Now ease yer pickup up on the ramp until the tire centers on the receiver. Put yer truck in park and you and yer neighbor get a cool one outa the fridge to reward yerselfs for getting the first part done.

    OK, so you only had a twelve pack and now it's gone. Now look at the gun from the muzzle end. The barrel will unscrew counter clockwise. This is why you used the passenger side. Cause when you find out you forgot to put the truck in park it will roll back down the ramp from the torque instead forward off the ramp.

    Now, y'all get in yer neighbor's truck (he does have a truck don't he) and, after a stop at the convience store for another twelve pack, go to the rental center and get a 24" pipe wrench. - - - - - Oop's, gotta go. My neighbor, Rufus, jest showed up and needs me ta hep him trim a new door to fit that he just bought for his bathroom. Gotta make sure my chainsaw is got fuel in it. Reckon you kin figure how to finish from here. Oh yea, a flat booger file will clean them teeth marks from the wrench just fine.

    Luck to ya, Pel

    OK Rufus, I'm comin'. Hey, you got any beer?


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  • captkirk3@dslextreme.com
    I knew there was an easier way to take 94 apart than what p3skyking was hawking...Makes me plumb Proud to be associated with gunbroker and Professional Gunsmiths like the Pelican....

    Captain Kirk, Tech Staff
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  • nord
    Ummm.... Let's see.

    Two twelve packs. Check. Set of ramps. Check. RAM diesel. Check.
    Another RAM diesel. (Transportation) Check.

    Whoops, don't need the second truck because we already have enough beer. (Good thinking!)

    Red Label properly bedded between tire and ramp on passenger side of truck. (Lowered air pressure so as not to damage stock.)

    Stowed empties from first twelve pack in back of second truck. Good start on the second case of beer.

    Located a 3' pipe wrench and 10' length of pipe (torque amplifier).

    No need to worry about marking up the barrels. Pipe wrench is well used and teeth are pretty much rounded. (We're all experts here.)

    Applied moderate pressure to Red Label with our barrel wrench, but it doesn't seem to be working...

    Went for more beer.

    Nord
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  • jonk
    Very funny. Now to actually answer your question... yes it can be done, though I have never done it. Considerable force is needed to remove the barrel. If you want to keep the gun, take it to a smith or get the proper tools. That way you won't risk bending the reciever, scratching the barrel, etc. Tools include a barrel vise and wrench and assorted shims and so on that go with it. They are costly and a smith could probably install ten barrels for you before it would pay to do it yourself. Then there is the matter of barrel timing (depends on the gun), headspacing, installing sights, bluing the new barrel... unless you plan on doing this a lot just go to a smith.

    On the other hand, if you were (you aren't) just in the position of getting the old barrel OFF with no worries as to the reciever, scratches, etc., you COULD just clamp it in a vice real tight, get the pipe wrench and breaker bar out and go for it. But I would only do this if I had a busted reciever or something and was parting out a gun. Can it be done with what you have on hand? Yes. Better to let a professional do it or get the right stuff though. Just my two cents.

    "...hit your enemy in the belly, and kick him when he is down, and boil his prisoners in oil- if you take any- and torture his women and children. Then people will keep clear of you..." -Admiral of the Fleet Lord Fisher, speaking at the Hague Peace Conf
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  • Kdub
    I'm gonna have to stop scanning these posts and really study them in detail..............

    Looks like PelicanMan and Nord are on to something! [:o)]

    Keep off the Ridgeline
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  • p3skyking
    Well, the Mauser barrel came off as advertised. The Arisaka's are a tad bit under size for the adapters I have. Will have to get a proper one for next attempt.


    A man who starts imagining that others think good because he does is simply out of his mind
    It behooves one to be wary when among strangers and not to trust too much L'Amour
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  • Rocklobster
    Well, no one's mentioned it, so I will. MAKE SURE IT'S UNLOADED BEFORE YOU START...
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