What comes with a NIB HK 91 A3?
Just curios as to what items should be in thebox with a NIB HK 91 A3 configuration.
I am looking at one...it has a test target, warranty card, manual, sling, and three mags. Did these come with a bayonet or bipod? The test target is dated 2/80 if that helps any.
I am looking at one...it has a test target, warranty card, manual, sling, and three mags. Did these come with a bayonet or bipod? The test target is dated 2/80 if that helps any.
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Only came with one magazine.
Bayonet and Bi-Pod were always an "Option" and certainly not
standard equipment.
Most of them from that era did come with a "paper straw" in the barrel.
I never really knew why, unless to absorb any moisture or
drink a cool one after a day of shooting.
Of the several I have owned, a couple came with a barrel "cap".
Just a plastic black one, but did keep dust out.
Sounds like you should be doing the "paper work" on this fine rifle(collectable) and not be messing around with posting on GB. (Just kiddin')
They're nice!!!!!!!!0 -
probly no such thing anymore
the thing that scares me is that we could be living in someone else's own reality0 -
I was an authorized HK law enforcement dealer for many years (including machineguns), have been to the factory, and have taken the armorers classes so the HK's are no mystery to me. This information comes directly from my own HK dealer price list dated 01 March, 1980: Item #1-10030 HK-91A3 semi automatic rifle w/retractable stock. Rifle shipped with one 20rd magazine and a sling. Retail price $769. Dealer price $570. All of these rifles were equiped with the large "target forearm" which was cut to accept the light bipod (never included). Back in those days the paperwork sent with the rifle was a very brief instruction manual, test target (all of whom were signed by a fellow named HERMANN, who I used to imagine meeting some day but never did) and the warranty card. Starting in 1984 a plastic muzzel cap was included with the rifles.
In 1985 the German Mark took a nose dive against the U.S. Dollar and prices on German goods plumeted. The January 1985 dealer price list shows the identical HK-91A3 rifle now selling for only $665 retail and just $499 dealer (OH TO BE BACK IN THOSE DAYS ONCE AGAIN!). HK also offered an HK accessory group (item #400001) consisting of an extra 20 rd magazine, cleaning kit, carrying handle, light bipod, and the sight adjustment tool. Retail on this package was only $191 and that was a good buy. As Spring Creek already told you the bayonets were never included with these rifles and none of the HK-91/93's were imported with the bayonet adaptor in place. This adaptor had to be purchased with the bayonet itself and then installed by the end user. You simply don't find NIB HK-91's around very often. I suggest that you take a close look at the receiver to be sure that it does not have any marring from installation and removal of the factory scope mount, carrying handle, or ejection port buffer because I would not consider such a rifle with that marring as NIB. Unfired yes. As it came from the factory? No way.
Mark T. Christian0 -
Well I bought it. Paid a good chunk, but it mine.
The test target is Schutze HERMANN, is dated 5.3.80 (March)and the gun's serial number is on it. The Anzahl der Schusee has a printed 5, but the 5 has an X through it and a 3 is written in. The target shows 3 shots at 100m. The is also smaller sheet attached to the target. It has " Rohr-Guteprufbefund" on the top, dated 6.3.80 and also has the gun's serial # on it.
The manual has a red cover and the warranty card complete (not sent out).
The out of the 3 mags mentioned, one actually came with the gun....easy to tell, two were NIW and steel. So it did come with one mag, which is aluminium. The sling is still NIW, never installed. The box is actually a sleeve coving stryofoam box with a stryofoam lid. There are two UPS stamps. Both have the local return address of H&K Inc. 933 Arlington, VA 22201, both are dated Apr 3 80. One is $1.15 and the other is $2.23.......$3.38 to ship a rifle back in 1980...damn prices have changed. The to adress was removed.
The gun is NIB. No marks on it...seems cherry. Well there are tiny tiny marks were the mag touches the lips of the mag well, but no other handling marks. I wish there wasn't any mag well marks, but IMO its a design flaw made by HK. I guess I can't mind too much because I like the look of the gun with a mag inserted....guns look awful when missing the mag...so I guess to a HARD Core collector this would be a BIG issue, but I can live with it, I sure the next buyer can too. It has a date code oa IA (80) and is marked Arlington VA. Kal. 308. The alluminum mag is 12/79.
I showed it to an HK buff looked at it and commented on his feeling that it is only factory test fired, because there are no carbon traces where the gun usually makes that signature. I know that last statement was not too informative, but I think I recall that carbon signature being related to the rollers or something to do with the bolt. Any how I was impressed with his knowledge and feel confident in his analysis....especial after I saw his relief when he asked me "are you going to fire it?" and I replied "NO".
Another safe queen. I think I'll hold it for 5 to 8 year and hopefully profit on it...0 -
Congrats on your new familymember =o)
I hope you will never part with it. (or need to buy parts for it!!)
Not all too good at German, it's been a while. (and you might know this to begin with, so just in case.)
"Schutze HERMANN" would be "Shooter : Hermann" or Testshooter.
Would love to be the guy, testfiring rifles all day - what a job. [:D]
Anzahl should mean the count of shots fired at the test-target.
Seems like the "Rohr-Guteprufbefund" would mean something like "Barrel approved" or something like that.
As Rohr is a sort of .. pipe, could mean barrel.
Don't do anything that I've allready done - That'd be just plain STOOOOOOPID.0 -
The only thing I have is a little cogniative disonance about the magwell. Remember I said it had tiny tiny light marks on the lips of the mag well from the flared out sections of the mag touch....well I don't recall if it did not have those marks when I bought it or if I cuased those marks when I inserted the mag. Now I don't remove and install the mag often....it may occur once or twice a year at most on this particular gun. But I would feel better if I knew they were there before I got my hands on it.....therefore liberating me of a guilty conscience of making those marks.
Again I blame HK for this issue.....design flaw.....they should have taken notes from FN's Fal. I also like the look of the gun with the mag inserted. But this sure weighs heavy on my conscience.....plus cheer me up.0
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