Ok guys, I need some advise
My brother recently bought a 7mm ultra mag, then the bug bit'em. He then went out and bought all the stuff to reload. Now he's having so much fun he bought a savage 223, we have gone shooting a couple of times trying different loads and comparing acceracey. Now I want to pick up a rifle, but I dont want a 30.06 (like everyone else in michigan has) we will be reloading and target shooting and some whitetail hunting, but probably nothing bigger then that. We love to do long range shots to see who can get the tightest group. So 25.06? 270? 308? please help and give some advice
Halsam00
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Hello halsam00,
Of the three you mentioned, the 308 is the best overall choice (based on accuracy, cost, and all aspects of reloading).
If you are willing to consider other cartridges, my favorite is the 280 Remington (7mm Express). It is an extremely accurate cartridge in a quality rifle, and reloading for it is on par with the 308.
Another good choice is the venerable 7x57mm Mauser cartridge (I have an old Springfield 03A3 with a Douglass barrel on it, and I feed it 140 gr. SPBTs that it dearly loves... sub .5" groups at 100 yds.)
Bert H.
Real Men use a SINGLE-SHOT!0 -
Other chamberings I'd look for are:
For hunting
.17 Rem (varmit only)
.220 Swift (varmit's only)
6mm rem
6mm Ackley Improved
.264 mag
7mm-08
For target only
6mm PPC
7mm BR
Of course some of these will require gunsmith work, while others are available for the finding (but it might take a little time). I had a factory Remington 700 in .220 Swift that shot 3/8" group at 100 yards with premium Hornady ammo... That's hard to beat!0 -
25.06 is the best choice. It is fast and has plenty of power for whitetail hunting. The others (still nice) are bigger but not faster. The .308 is more of a tatical load than a hunting load.
Mad Dog0 -
For long range shooting (500+ yards)I'd go with the 308. The 25-06 would be next on my list and it is good out to 1000 yards, on very calm days, but the 308 will allow you to shoot more often and more accurately for the long range stuff. Just my .02[:)]
Eric0 -
My favorite of the listed guns is the .270 win, in the remington 700 adl synthetic. the gun has little recoil, and I have shot the gun out to 400 yards and had two inch groups from that far. For hunting, I use the same gun and in New Mexico long shots are required much of the time. I think you can take you friend from as long as you want to go. Next I would say to go with the 25-06. 0 -
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ATF0 -
GROUNDHOG DEVASTATION: Where are you when I need you. Read the post entitled 25-06 and see what the others have to say. Next go and pick up a Tikka lite T-3 and see how good it feels. Pick up anything else and compare. Then take your Tikka to the counter and smile.
I technically have a .308 but it is a Lazzeroni/Sako Warbird and is overkill for whitetail (still better than underkill). If I get a wall hanger this year, it is going in the closet and a Tikka 25-06 is going on the rack.
Mad Dog0 -
I'm suprised no one has mentioned the 300 win mag. That's what I want.
Regards,
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For all round use for the single caliber shooter, the 270 is probably the best. 0 -
I dearly love the 25-06. That said, I don't believe I'd select it with the given cartridges for what you intend to do with it.
Don't have a .270, as I never felt a need for one, having 25-06's, 6.5-06's, 7mm Mags and 30-06's.
Although never owning a .308 either, yet I feel this would be the best for what you want. A far better bullet selection than the other two, very easy to reload, and known for inherent accuracy. You can't go wrong with this pick.
Keep off the Ridgeline0 -
There are many choices as there are opinions, so here is one more! The .308 is an excellent choice for near or far targets. This caliber gets a lot of use in shooting matches and as a hunting weapon. I have used it with factory loads and with reloads to take deer. The caliber seems to be the mainstay for most military and police sniper units as well. The .270 is a very flat shooting rifle and like wise, I have used this caliber for nearly 20 years on whitetails. Loaded behind a 130 gr spire point bullet, it is propelled by 54 grs of IMR4350. It is accurate - very accurate! It has dropped whitetails at 300+ yds and has taken them when only a small target such as the neck is available. One thing with the .308 is the fact it is based on a short action and you would have less bolt time with this one vs. the .270 which is on a long action.Both are fine cartridges and you could not go wrongeither way.
Moose0 -
I know you didn't mention this one but what about 300 win mag? 0 -
Rifle + Michigan = northern 2/3 of the state (southern 1/3 = shotgun) which tends to be mostly dense timber and swamp hunting.
Under normal hunting conditions here, visibilty of 100yd is normal (unless you know a crop farmer, than you can get out into the 500yd range), and shots are often under 50yd (no need for super guns).
I'd opt for the 308 and bullets that are on the heavy end of the scale, unless your like me and hunting over open fields, and than I'd still stay with the 308 and go with a light to mid-range bullet weight.
Some guys like a mag full of lead, I still prefer one round to the head.0
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