Kwenwe Mauser info

mjc

October 13, 2003 09:35

Hi

I am looking for information an old mauser 8 x 57mm sporter that I have. On the barrel is Emil Kerner & Sohn Geweurfariken Suhl. On the side of the reciever is a crwon N and then 2.75 Q(?)GBP. The gun has double set triggers, ramp front sight, and a barrel leaf sight. Any info would be appreciated.

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  p3skyking

  October 13, 2003 09:50

  With the Crown N it was made prior to 1940. Sounds like you have a very nice custom built German prewar sporter. Cherish it.
  
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  rufe-snow

  October 13, 2003 09:58

  I have a reference for a Emil Kerner & Sohn, in Suhl. Gunmakers ( "Hunting and Sporting Guns" ) and wholesalers. In business from the 1890's to the 1920's.
  "Crown N" and "2.75 Q(?) GBP" are early commercial smokeless powder proofmarks. The "2.75" is the weight of the power in Grams. "GBP" is the name of the specific German powder.
  I believe these markings predate the First World War (in use no later then 1912?). It seems that you have a early commercial sporter.
  The question now, was it built on a Mauser Commercial Action, or more likely a reworked military rifle ( 1888 Commision Rifle ).

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  mjc

  October 13, 2003 10:53

  Thanks for the replies
  
  It was built on a large ring 98 action. It has some mild engraving but no crests etc. This is a gun that I picked up in the 60's and until recently, haven't done much with.
  
  Mike

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  captkirk3@dslextreme.com

  October 13, 2003 11:32

  BALDERSON'S BOOK of Gunmarks, Third Edition....says KERNER, E. & Company, Sporting Arms maker in Suhl, Germany, circa 1935-39... The Crown over N stamp was the original Nitro Proof Mark in place in 1893 and placed on the Barrel and under the Reciever used in conjunction with the 2.75 GBP is the Proof mark for smokeless powder proof for rifled barrel with a steel jacketed bullet, in use since July 23, 1893. The "GPB" indicates a special military flake powder...
  (Gewehr Blattchenpulver} which, with 41.2 grains (2.67Gm.), produces 58,800 psi with the indicated bullet......
  
  
  
  Captain Kirk, Tech Staff

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