Mosin Nagant rifles?
I see alot of these for sale for cheap. Are they a decent rifle for the price? What is a reasonable price one that is in good condition?
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Strong, accurate, cheap, cheap ammo, powerful, BUT: ugly, hard to sporterize (lousy safety, hard to scope).
All in all GREAT for the price ($75-$150). Caution;Most have poor bores (although they still are pretty good with military ammo).
Morty
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Decent price depends on the rifle. An M44 new in wrap or excellant condition will set you back $70-$100; an M39 Finn will be more accurate and in similar conidtion run around $150-$200. Great guns though.
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I bought an M44 for $100. It's in beautiful condition.
I've only fired it out to 100 yards with a bench rest and open sights. I can hit a paper plate all day. The only misses, I'm convinced, are shooter errors. It's quite accurate.
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Are they decent? Just ask any old German war vet who saw action during operation Barbarosa. That is if you can find one who lived through it.[:)]
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I have a 91/30 mosin nagant that i bought this summer for $100 new very good bore strong as a mule low recoil powerful fun to shoot noisey. redoing the stock right now for deer hunting very cheap ammo
I would go for a longer mosin nagant than a m44.[8D]0 -
Me, personally, I'd much rather have a good Finnish M39---better built than the Russkie M-N, and considerably better-looking.
You know, I think that'll be my next project....0 -
H.S.,
In all, the Mosin-Nagants are sturdy and reliable 7.62mm rifles. They are fairly cheap right now as a result of the old Soviet arsenals being opened. As some have said on this board already, you have to be careful of the bores as some are dark. Having said that however, the rearsenalled rifles are in fine condition. They are not fancy, but they are effective. The 7.62x54R round is a kicker and will bring in ballistics that are between the .308 (NATO 7.62) and the .30-06. Many of the rearsenalled rifles that you will find are dated between 1933 and 1944, with a smattering of the 1945s available.
The Mosin-Nagants on the market right now are showing in three basic models: 91/30, M38 and M44. The 91/30 is the basic rifle design. It is a long, bolt action rifle that was designed for the average infantry troop. Its long barrel will maximize the powder burn and will throw a round out past 300metres with accuracy.
The M38 and the M44 are a shorter carbine version of the 91/30. Originally designed for support troops and artillerymen, the M38 was a well made rifle. With a barrel about 4 inches shorter than the 91/30, its accuracy suffers a bit. By the latter part of the war, the production of the M38 was too costly and time consuming. This prompted the production of the cheaper M44 with its cheaper wood work and less refined metal work.
Because of pre-war contracts, the Finns also had a short barrelled version of the rifle that they produced and that was known for being well made, the M39. These are definitely more expensive rifles and are worth the cost. On occassion, if you get into collecting these rifles, you will come across a Finn captured 91/30 from the Winter War. These Soviet-made, Finn captured and refined weapons are more history than anything else.
To find out a lot more, you can check out either Mosin-Nagant Dot Net (http://www.mosin-nagant.net) or The Russian Mosin-Nagant Page and Forums (http://www.russian-mosin-nagant.com). These are excellent sites and the best that I have found for information on these rifles.
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I just bought a Mosin 7.62 x 54r from a guy for $100.00 that has a composite stock on it. I was actually impressed with the accuracy when I shot it. I was using open sights and the 203 grain rounds at about 100 yrds and keeping them in about a 4" group. I am having a scope put on it right now because I will be using it for Northern Michigan whitetails in a couple weeks.
Eric W.0 -
Southern Ohio Guns has the 91/30 and the M-38 both in excellent condition for $69.95. You should try one before you buy especially that safety. I have 23 in various configurations and they are all consistent shooters but be prepared to work on the sights because most of mine shoot high. I think they are great deer rifles for woods hunting. this year I'm hunting with a model 91 built in 1917. 0 -
I have four. They make fine kick around rifles to throw in the back ofthe truck for shootin coyotes and such.
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