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  • OleDuk
    What other markings does it have on it, JustC? The first thing that comes to my mind is a Mexican Mauser, made in Mexico.
    Regards,
    OleDuk
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  • p3skyking
    I concur with Ole. Mexican or South American. Only places that used 7mm except for Spain during the Spanish American War but it obviously post dates that.
    A man who starts imagining that others think good because he does is simply out of his mind
    It behooves one to be wary when among strangers and not to trust too much L'Amour
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  • rufe-snow
    Most all of the 1910 contract Mausers, have a national crest on the chamber. Unless yours has been ground off, the only one i could find that didn't have a crest is the Costa Rican contract rifle.
    It almost identical to the standard Gewehr 98 EXCEPT it has a "Shrouded Bolt Face" that envelopes the rim of cartridge case. This feature was very unusual in military contract Mausers.
    It's a long shot but check your bolt, you might have an unusual, little known contract Mauser.
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  • JustC
    OK,..it has the crest,..but it is worn away quite a bit. The Bolt face is not shrouded,..so I am guessing this is a mexican mauser?

    are these anything special? junk? worth rebarreling with a decent aftermarket tube? or just keep it as a behind the seat gun in the truck?

    Thanks guys

    P.S. It says "waffenfabrik mauser orberndorf" on the left side of the receiver.

    why chase the game when the bullet can get em from here?....
    Got Balistics?
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  • captkirk3@dslextreme.com
    Hmmmmm..Interesting...My Source says the 1st and only Mauser Type Action Made in Mexico was the Model 1936 in 7mm Short Action..! before that and after all Bolt Action Guns were contracted for and Imported from various Manufactures from around the World...Including Japans Arisaka...Type 38 in 7mm..They are quite Rare and bring a Premium...But None of my Books show any Particular gun as being called a Model 10...The gang is Correct about the 7mm being a popular Caliber in Mexico and the Latin Country's I can think of 3 or 4 just sitting here..Peru, Equidor, Honduras, Salvador, Chile....and I know there was a few more...Be interesting to see just whay you have and some info on the Model 10......

    Captain Kirk, Tech Staff
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  • rufe-snow
    If it's marked " Waffenfabrik Mauser Orberndorf " it's probably a Venezuelan Model 1910 Mauser, rather then a Mexican.
    The Mexican Model 1910 was produced in the Mexican National Armory in Mexico City.
    I would do some reasearch on it, before rebarreling/bubbaizing it.
    There's a bunch of web sites for collectors of ex-military rifles,particularly Mausers. You MIGHT be able to get some fair money out of it.

    http://home.comcast.net/~robbj/index.html

    http://www.militaryrifles.com/MAINIndx.htm


    http://www.InfantryRifles.com
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  • JustC
    Thanks again gentlemen. Now,..this rifle was/is quite pitted on the barrel. It was seperated from the stock when I inherited it,..and I had to find a screw of the correct thread to cut and make a foreward action screw. The stock is not exactly great either,..so I would rate condition as poor. It does still have the smooth feel that is typical of the orberndorf mausers. That being said,....would this thing have any value even if it were more rare?

    why chase the game when the bullet can get em from here?....
    Got Balistics?
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  • captkirk3@dslextreme.com
    There might be some small collectors value.....but I sure would'nt hold My breath while waiting for the check to clear...If You can put it together and make it work....I'd hang in on the Mantle Piece and make up some Grand and Adveturous story about how this Rifle was Pancho Villa's Personal Rifle.......Perhaps it could be true....?The pleasure you could get out of the STORIES would be worth a Million...

    Captain Kirk, Tech Staff
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  • JustC
    Thanks Capt Kirk,....I wondered about the "beat to death" look/condition of this rifle.

    why chase the game when the bullet can get em from here?....
    Got Balistics?
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  • trstone
    According to Ball's "Mauser Military Rifles of the World":

    The Mexican Model 1910 was the first Mex Mauser produced IN Mexico. There's a pic of the receiver ring in the book showing a feathery bird-thing sitting on what looks like a pile of rocks, which is in turn flanked by two symmetrical leaf-clusters. Circling this design are the words "FABRICA NACIONAL DE ARMAS-MEXICO D.F." and beneath this is the year of manufacture. The bird-thing, according to the book, is the "Mexican Eagle." The 1910 Mexican Mauser has a straight wrist-stock, and the upper handguard extends from the front of the receiver ring to just beyond the lower barrel-band, which has a swivel on the bottom. The pic of the rifle shows a straight bolt-handle. The book sez they also made a Mod. 1910 carbine.
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  • JustC
    This rifle has a crest with several symetrical leaf clusters,..but there doesn't appear to be an eagle inside it. The stamp is so faded,..it's hard to make out. There also is NO upper handguard,..the rifle has the lower stock only. It does have the straight bolt,...with a rounded pistol grip. I see no mention of mexico,..just under the stamp on the receiver is says "mauser mod 1910"

    Also,..last night I noticed that 2 proof stamps of the leaf clusters along side of 1946 located on the left side of the receiver ring and the barrel as well.

    why chase the game when the bullet can get em from here?....
    Got Balistics?
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