Burris Signature vs Bushnell Elite 4200 scopes
I've read a lot of good things about both of these scopes. I'm a little worried about the Burris because I've read that the adjustments are limited because of the larger internal lenses? I can buy a Burris Signature 3x9x40 for $342 or a Elite 4200 2.5x10x40 for $323. Please give me some input so I can make an informed decision.
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Their both good Scopes, I have a B&L 3x9 4200 on my 300 win mag and have shot it a lot, and the scope is still good, I have ratteled Luepoles loose on Mag Rifles. Only hae one Burris, it's on a 223 remington VS Not much recoil their. it a straight 12 power, and No problems, Good Luck either way you go will be good. 0 -
The Burris will only show it's lack of adjustment if you wish to "click to the target" at long range. By this I mean,..that if you wish to take the clicks to be dead on at say 600yds,..it probably won't make it that far. This is for the 4-16, 6-24, and 8-32x models which have only 22" of internal travel. The lower powered models have more travel, but less magnification. I sent my 6-24 back to the wholesaler when I found this out,.because I was putting it on a long range rifle. My balistics calculations for the 142gr match king in 6.5mm fired from a 6.5-06 improved, out of a 26" barrel told me that the scope would be out of adjustment by ~540yds. I planned on shooting this rifle farther than that,..so I sent it back and opted to save longer for another scope with more adjustment.
I beleive that the higher magnification Elites also have a similar construction (if memory serves).
The use of a 20MOA base and/or burris signature rings with the inserts that can add another 20MOA to that (or 5, 10, 15MOA) would put any caliber you have out past 1000yds.
Don't worry too much about the adjustments if you plan on sighting the gun in at some predetermined height at 100yds and leaving the adjustment caps on it after that. The only time the adjustments matter is if you are going to be using them as a normal part of shooting (i.e. clicking to "zero" at multiple distances) If you will simply hold over/under,...then it is of no consequence.
That all being said,..I like the construction of the burris. The main tube is thicker than the leupold vari-x series scopes and will take a little more abuse. I don't think the lenses are bested by the elite's either,..but that will probably draw some fire from others. Either scope is a very good choice for all around use. Both are very bright and well built.[8]
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As usual, JustC has it nailed. I also prefer the Burris, not to say that there is anything wrong with the Bushnell Elite, but I think Burris has better optics/coatings. They also have posi-lock if you think recoil might be an issue.
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I have the Elite 4000 4-16X50mm on my gun. it is the older version of the 4200 when they were still Bausch & Lomb. It is on a 7mmSTW that I hot load and let me tell you it pounds me. Year after year I have had zero probs with the scope, it stays dead on. I dont think I have adjusted it in 4 years. My freind has the new 4200 and I can say there is a difference, the rainguard coating on them works pretty well. I wish it was on my scope. I have never been a Burris fan as I have not seen one that I felt didnt distort color. They were clear but yet always seamed to make everything appear white. As far as construction I havent heard any real complaints on either scope. I would save the $20 bucks, get the Elite and use it to buy another box of bullets[:)] 0 -
If you buy a elite 4200 and for any reason in the first 12 months of ownership you aren't satisfied Bushnell will fully reembers you for the scope. Thats a pretty good deal. I have two different 4200 and several 3200 and love them. The brightness on the 4200 is awsome. They have aslo been recoil tested to 10,000 rounds of .375 H&H. They are titanium infused bodies which makes them about %30 stronger than the burris which is aircraft grade aluminum.
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Both are designed & built very well. Good choice either way.
Just a few notes.
>Limited adjustements, not running out of adjustments, but rather limiting the internal travel via stops, is done by some companies to keep a good 'sight picture', and keep adjustments 'on track'.
It is a good thing to do.
3-9X40 isn't normally used for very long range shots, 400 + yards. unless it has a Ranging Reticle, and/or a Bullet Drop Compensation system.
You will in any case need to practice, and create a Drop Chart for you rifle IF you want to be accurate & humane.
Better to use elevated bases, or Burris Signature rings that are windage & elevation adjustable,...if you expect to 'shoot long' alot, or choose different scope features.
However, with some practice, and understanding your set up, 400 yards shots shouldn't be an issue with the right cartridge, and ammo.
Any coating reduces light transmission. Rainguard is no exception, but they compensated by using a 550nM wave length for the Red color spectrum. Brown has red a primary color in it. So it does enchance, or compensate for the Rainguard coating.
If you hunt in high humidity, wet areas, you forget to use scope covers, and/or taking hunts that will expose you to rain, then Rainguard is very good.
Interesting material choices on the Elite 4200 tubing. Certainly will increase tensile strength over standard tubing. Titanium is light & strong, also harder to machine, so for those who make strength an issue, expect to pay more for the strength upgrade.
Aircraft grade T6061 tubing used on the Signature is extremely strong, especially compared to standard aluminum tubing.
Would be interesting to have a 'weightlifting' contest between them.
You can't go wrong either way. you'll have to choose what features 'float your boat', type of hunting, and then chose.
Remember, the shooters ability is the usually the weakest link
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