model 94 winchester

Gerald Murray

October 03, 2003 18:22

Would it be pretty common to find a 94 receiver with a 64 barrel? The receiver is not drilled for a receiver sight and I think I read that all 64's were drilled for the receiver sight.

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  Gerald Murray

  October 03, 2003 18:22

  Bert said my 94 was pre WW2 and most likely manufactured b'tween '38 and '41, i read his refrence to a WP in an oval thet signifies that the gun has been proofed. My "94" also has 2 more "ovals" at the base of the bbl. What might these signify?
  
  The "BIG MONEY FISH" are down deep.

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  only winchesters

  October 03, 2003 18:51

  That serial # was issued in 1897-98 time frame, the barrel is most likely 24 in. (Barrel lenght starts right infront of the breech bolt to the end of the muzzle. No records to speak of who was the original owner, most of the time. the cody Muesium in Wy may be able to letter your gun. This will tell you when it was shipped from the warehouse. If the gun was a special order they may have some info on who ordered it. This gun is worth some money, you may want to get it appraised for insurance declaration. I'm sure others can add more info. Regards Dave

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  rlfcjf

  October 03, 2003 19:03

  i am taking a guess that it is probably a model 1894..
  the serial numbers would indicate a manufacture date
  around 1898... without knowing condition of rifle and
  if all parts are original, it is hard to place a value
  on it.. my suggestion would be to type in Winchester model
  1894 on GB's search engine and do some comparing...
  
  rick

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  Bert H.

  October 04, 2003 01:40

  Hello Gerald,
  
  You indeed have a Winchester Model 1894 Rifle (it should be marked as such on the upper tang, along with the Aug 21, 1894 patent date). The barrel length on a standard Model 1894 Rifle of that era was 26". Special order lengths (both longer and shorter) were available, and my guess is that yours is actually 24".
  
  There is no way to trace it to the original owner (unless you have documentation with the rifle tracing it to the original purchaser). The Cody Fireams Museum has the original factory ledgers that will tell you precisely when it was received in warehouse, when it was shipped from the warehouse, and all the pertinent details for that serial number... Variation (Rifle or Carbine), caliber, barrel length, barrel shape, trigger type (set triggers were an option), stock type (pistol grip was a special order option), butt (shotgun buttstocks were special order), and if it had special order sights.
  
  Because your Rifle was made prior to 1 January, 1899, it is classified by the BATFE as an "Antique", and is no longer considered to be a "firearm" for license or transfer purposes. This fact does add a 20-25% premium to the value, but the value is primarily determined by the graded condition. If it has been refinished sometime durings its 105 year life span, that will negatively affect the value. But for arguement sake, let us assume that it is 100% original, with a special order barrel length, and with 70% of its original finish... value would be in the $1400 range. The only way to really determine what it is potentially worth, is to have it appraised in hand... by someone qualified to do so.
  
  Bert H.
  
  Real Men use a SINGLE-SHOT!

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