best AR

dobieman0690

September 30, 2003 07:22

I have a chance to buy a bushmaster varmiter or a red rock 223 for about the same price and was wondering which would be the best one to buy. i plan to use this to shoot 40 -50 gr bullets thanks

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  gunner8479

  September 30, 2003 07:28

  In my opinion, I'd go with Bushmaster just because they have a good track record. Bushmaster has been around for quite some time and I've heard very few minor problems with their rifles and this was many years ago. Lately, I haven't experienced or heard anything negative about Bushmaster rifles.[:)]
  
  gunner8479

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  cbxjeff

  September 30, 2003 08:10

  I've had my Bushmaster for about 4 years. No problems at all with it. I wish I could say that for everything I buy!
  
  cbxjeffIt's too late for me, save yourself.

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  gap1916

  September 30, 2003 09:52

  Bushmaster, Bushmaster, Bushmaster. Did I mention Bushmaster. My 2 cents. [8D]
  
  Greg

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  ohioghog

  September 30, 2003 13:11

  yes. bushmaster. had no probs with mine.

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  juju

  September 30, 2003 15:37

  Did anybody say BUSHMASTER?
  
  
  JuJu (who loves his)

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  chuck

  October 01, 2003 03:46

  BUSH-MASTER, Turn that around it spells MASTER- BUSH. Our President, and I am going to leave it at that.

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  juju

  October 01, 2003 14:50

  chuck, if you tiurn it around it says:
  
  
  RETSAM HSUB
  
  Must be some secret code[;)]
  
  JuJu(who maybe just found his new tag line)

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  fort_knox

  October 01, 2003 15:55

  Ordinarily, I would say this is a "no-brainer", and say Bushmaster.
  
  Since you said you were going to be using .223 w/40-50 gr. projectiles; I would say maybe not!
  
  The reason I say that is because I am not familiar with the twist-rate on either of these models.
  
  A 40-50 grain projectile lends itself better to a slower rate of twist. Ideally, you would be looking at a 1:12 twist-rate for these light projectiles.
  
  Most AR type rifles are being made available in a 1:9 twist. This is too fast for that light of a projectile.
  
  The original military configuration for AR-15/M-16's was for a 55 gr. projectile, and thus a 1:12 twist.
  
  The current standard (A2) is in a 1:9 twist for the heavier 62 gr. projectile.
  
  I am not familiar with the "red rock". I have a Bushmaster...and some other AR's.
  
  I shot prairie dogs w/my 1:9 twist Bushmaster and didn't do very well. I would like to blame it all on the inappropriate twist rate for the light ballistic tip projectiles I was using, but know that isn't entirely true.
  
  The 1:9 is better than the 1:7 I have heard exists, and the 1:9 is a happy medium...but I think the 1:12 is what you need if the 40-50's are what you are going to be using.
  
  Over-stabilization can occur! Faster twist is not always better. Look up "over-stabilization" and you will see what I am talking about...do a search on "Google".
  
  So, I would definetly look for quality in the rifle, but also consider it's suitability for your application.

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  Marksmen

  October 01, 2003 17:52

  Get the evil Bushmaster!!

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  Jacobite

  October 02, 2003 01:27

  Bushmaster. Being a varmit model it may have a slower twist than 1:9 Most A2's have 1:9 and do fine with 55 grain bullets not as goot as a 1:12 but good enough. My M4 has the 1:7 that is what the Gov. specs to stabilize the 62 grain bullets. Regardless bushmaster is a Gov. contractor and their rifles are built to Gov. specs. Rebarraling it to a custom barrel should you need to will be no trouble. Never heard of Red Rock, sure you don't meen Rock River?

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