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first off, the cetme is not a clone of the hk91
the hk 91 is a civilian legal semi automatic clone of the Heckler and Koch Gewehr 3 or G3. the first year of the cetme model C rifle (the rifle century arms is selling) was 1958. the first year of the HK91 was 1977
theres a bit of a time difference there.
second. the german army was allowed to have firearms again after the war. They bought a CRAP LOAD of FN FAL rifles that they designated as G1. It turned out that the G1 was not as reliable as they had hoped, so they opened up trials for a new rifle. The CETME Modelo 58 design won, and Heckler and Koch was awarded the contract to start making them. They were CETME Modelo 58 rifles.
There were lots of German engineers from Mauser who went to work at CETME. CETME did not produce rifles on a large scale, they were a design / engineering division who made prototype rifles. The company who actually made CETME rifles was Santa Barbara in Spain.
the great Dr Voss was one of the engineers who worked for CETME that was a Mauser engineer before the war.
The weapon was designed in spain by a mix of Spanish, and German engineers. The CETME Model A was made LONG before the G3, or the model C cetme. but the STG44, STG45 were around before the cetme, and the cetme was a descindant from them.
so, it goes a little something like this
MKb42
mp43
mp44
stg44
stg45
cetme model a
cetme model 58
cetme model C, and HK G3 same time
so the G3 is an improvement of the cetme. the cetme is an improvement of the stg 45, and so on, and so on, and so on.
The cetme rifles are great rifles. They are the reason Heckler and Koch are even in business today. Without the design of the G3, HK might not be making firearms to this date. They might be making toasters instead.
I would do a little research on the subject before buying ANY firearm. Go to the above resources and ask them what they think about the rifle before blowing your hard earned money. There are alot of knowledgeable folks that will bend over and help you anyway they can.
go here and ask about the cetme rifle
http://www.gunboards.com/forums/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=47
those folks will give you the STRAIGHT scoop on these rifles.
I have a CETME, and its been the best rifle ive ever owned.
Yml
the hk 91 is a civilian legal semi automatic clone of the Heckler and Koch Gewehr 3 or G3. the first year of the cetme model C rifle (the rifle century arms is selling) was 1958. the first year of the HK91 was 1977
theres a bit of a time difference there.
second. the german army was allowed to have firearms again after the war. They bought a CRAP LOAD of FN FAL rifles that they designated as G1. It turned out that the G1 was not as reliable as they had hoped, so they opened up trials for a new rifle. The CETME Modelo 58 design won, and Heckler and Koch was awarded the contract to start making them. They were CETME Modelo 58 rifles.
There were lots of German engineers from Mauser who went to work at CETME. CETME did not produce rifles on a large scale, they were a design / engineering division who made prototype rifles. The company who actually made CETME rifles was Santa Barbara in Spain.
the great Dr Voss was one of the engineers who worked for CETME that was a Mauser engineer before the war.
The weapon was designed in spain by a mix of Spanish, and German engineers. The CETME Model A was made LONG before the G3, or the model C cetme. but the STG44, STG45 were around before the cetme, and the cetme was a descindant from them.
so, it goes a little something like this
MKb42
mp43
mp44
stg44
stg45
cetme model a
cetme model 58
cetme model C, and HK G3 same time
so the G3 is an improvement of the cetme. the cetme is an improvement of the stg 45, and so on, and so on, and so on.
The cetme rifles are great rifles. They are the reason Heckler and Koch are even in business today. Without the design of the G3, HK might not be making firearms to this date. They might be making toasters instead.
I would do a little research on the subject before buying ANY firearm. Go to the above resources and ask them what they think about the rifle before blowing your hard earned money. There are alot of knowledgeable folks that will bend over and help you anyway they can.
go here and ask about the cetme rifle
http://www.gunboards.com/forums/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=47
those folks will give you the STRAIGHT scoop on these rifles.
I have a CETME, and its been the best rifle ive ever owned.
Yml
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JuJu (confused)0 -
Boy, I'm glad we got that straightened out![:o)]
Love them Beavers
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Verrrry Interessssssting. Long too.
You are your own best teacher. My advice is to question all things. Seek for answers, and when you find what seems to be an answer, question that too. L'Amour0 -
So ......Whats yer question? 0 -
and thats that. am i really getting credit for this post? 0 -
Thank you for posting this knowledgeable info. I am a dealer and I get so pissed when I here people call the CETME's crap and G3 cast-offs. Oh yeah,......CETMES ROCK!!
JC
Ted Kennedy's breath has killed more people than my car.0 -
I think many people refer to them as HK91 style because that is often what people know them by. You're right about the CETME's being first, I recently read a book that went into relative depth about them. Very interesting reading... 0 -
I think maybe this post is related to my questions about CETME??? 0 -
I think Ricky3/Snuff is about to pay a return visit. 0 -
First off welcome to the fun house, soulds like you have a lot of time on your hands, thanks fer the info. 0 -
Welcome to GB
And Thanks for sharing this information!0
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