quick shock rounds are they efective
can any body tell me if, 22 or 25 caliber, quick shock bullets
have good stoping power,they defregment in 2 or 3 parts
any help is welcome[:0]
have good stoping power,they defregment in 2 or 3 parts
any help is welcome[:0]
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"Good stopping power" on what? On squirrels or chipmunks, perhaps.
As a self-defense round? No.
In my personal opinion, nothing less than 9mm or .38 Special has "good" stopping power. To get into the "very good" or "excellent" category you have to go to .357 Mag., .40, .44, or .45.0 -
On game?
On a ribeye steak?
I wouldn't shoot a human with one of those unless it was a skinny Pacific-Rim gangbanger with a compromised immune system.
The Quik-Shok are effective in test media, splitting into 2 or more fragments; but I wouldn't count on that stopping anything bigger than a fat housecat (and then only after emptying the clip!).
If .22lr or .25acp are your ONLY choices; go for the Win. Silvertips or Gold Dots in the .25, and Aguila SE in the .22.
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Think I'll go against the grain here. As a primary cartridge, NO!!! As a round for your backup or deep concealment gun it is about as good as you are going to get in a 22.
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I'd be inclined to use them for a backup gun too, but only if I couldn't use a .32 ACP.
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First off let me say that I'm a law enforcement officer and have been at the scene of a number of incidents where persons have been shot I'm also a firearms instructor and have done a fair ammount of of work with balistics. To start, to insure a disabling wound, you have to hit your target in a vital area. This is no small feat under the stress and addrenaline dump one encounters in a critical situation. Persons who are excellent shooters will often miss at very close ranges. Accuracy becomes very difficult when your target is shooting back at you! Second , your goint to want a round that will penitrate and hopefully expand in some 15 to 18 inches. It may have to penitrate several bones, such as in a side shot going through say an arm and rib cage before hitting a chest cavity and going another six to 10 inches
to get to the heart area. Even then, A person hit square in the heart may have enough oxygen in his system that he's still functioning for up to a minute or more until the central nervous system and the brain starts shutting down. One thing I've found both in the ballistics lab and in actual street shootings is that many of the "gimic" rounds such as the glazer safety slugs, quick shock, ect don't have the penitration needed. A simple test would be to buy a box of the desired ammo and set up gallon jugs of water on a bench top 4 jugs deep At then end of the 4 jugs place a 3/4 inch 2'x2' piece of plywood ( make shure you have a adequate backstop behind your testing area and fire one round into the test medium. If you get complete penitration of the plywood you round will PROBABLY be ok ( again if you hit a vital spot). This" test " isn't as precise as what I've done in the balistic lab but it's close. I once had a very distinguished balistician at a workshop and school I went to who constantly reminded us that " bullets don't work" so be prepaired to use a large multiple shots and remember that a 155 howitzer that takes off off a finger won't be anywhere near as effective as a .22LR between the eyes!0 -
quote:Originally posted by punchie
Think I'll go against the grain here. As a primary cartridge, NO!!! As a round for your backup or deep concealment gun it is about as good as you are going to get in a 22.
I'd have to agree with that. CCI Stinger is a good choice too and could provide better penetration on "thicker" targets. The "Quik-Shok" is actually owned by CCI.
And for those who want to ignore the lethality of the 22lr round--consider the tens of thousands of people who have died from only being shot with a 22.0
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