Universal M 1

45

September 13, 2003 18:20

I have a Universal M1 that someone told me to check it and see if it fires in battery only it does not it fires any where after the bolt cocks. how do I go about repairing it.

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  keywest

  September 13, 2003 19:32

  Sell it and get a surplus M-1 , there were nine different manufacturers to choose from, all of which are very good weapons.I had a universal M-1 and it was a piece of CRAP!

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  45

  September 13, 2003 19:56

  That is not right to sell it with the problem to some one else I want to know if there is a repair for the problem is so what is it. I would not give something that is unsafe to some one else. No thanks.Lets find the fix for it.

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  gruntled

  September 13, 2003 20:21

  If I understand you correctly you are saying that anytime after you have cocked it, the hammer will drop when you pull the trigger.
  This does not mean the cartridge would likely be fired as the firing pin would not reach the primer. The fact is just about any gun will do this.
  
  The recommendation to sell it is still valid. The design is much poorer than a GI model & parts may be hard to come by.

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  45

  September 13, 2003 20:29

  Then is the gun unsave the way that it is? It is alright to shoot as a plinker? not for any real serious shooting?

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  nmyers

  September 14, 2003 05:38

  Sigh. Let me try again.
  
  After the bolt on a carbine moves forward & chambers a round, the op rod forces it to rotate so that the 2 lugs on the bolt lock into recesses in the receiver; this lock up is necessary so that when a round is fired, the bolt is firmly in place & keeps all force within the chamber.
  
  The problem with many Universals is that, because of poor quality casting of the receiver, & poor quality of other parts, they may fire when the bolt is forward but has not locked into the receiver. This may cause the bolt & part of the op rod to fly back into the shooters face. Whether your intention was to use the carbine as a plinker, or to shoot a match, is irrelevant: you still have large pieces of metal in your eyes/forehead.
  
  YOU do not know enough about carbines to determine if yours is safe to shoot. It MAY be one of the few good ones, but only a gunsmith can make that determination.
  
  Neal

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  Xracer

  September 14, 2003 06:24

  45....nmyers is right. If you're not sure, take it to a gunsmith and have it checked out.
  
  BUT....Good for you for not wanting to sell a possibly defective firearm to somebody else!

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  rrfhunter

  September 14, 2003 08:20

  For what it's worth, my universal will NOT fire unless the bolt is locked all the way forward. The hammer drops but there is no contact with the firing pin. If the action is slow at all and the bolt needs a little oil it won't fully cycle forward. In other words as long as it's reasonably clean it shoots great.
  
  Have you actually fired it somewhere safe or are you dry firing it and making assumptions?
  
  ....I never met a gun I didn't like!

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  45

  September 14, 2003 12:00

  I fully understand how the gun works. but until now nothing was clicking. rrfhunter finally said somthing that put it all in perspective . with the hammer cocked and the bolt moving forward .the hammer falls but DOES NOT hit the firing pin. only in the full battery position. does the hammer actually hit the firing pin. I really want to thank all of you for your help and sorry to seem to be so dumb but how does one learn if you don't ask the question? Again Thanks Alot. Steve

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  rrfhunter

  September 16, 2003 20:44

  You're welcome and thank you for the compliment!
  
  But how did you know my name is Steve? ha ha...
  
  Try shoving the bolt all the way home like a forward assist on an AR-15.
  
  ....I never met a gun I didn't like!

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