I am confused about
reloading the 45-70! Am not a reloader and thinking about starting with this one caliber. Was informed that a light load is 50 gr of powder, with filler, and a wax "plug" and to be sure there is no airspace in the case. Also was informed that I could use 20 gr without filler. Just learned that one is for black powder and the other is for smokeless.
MY QUESTION: If there can't be any airspace in the cartridge, how can the 20 gr without filler be safe? Is there a difference between the black powder and smokeless burn rates (or something???)?
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MY QUESTION: If there can't be any airspace in the cartridge, how can the 20 gr without filler be safe? Is there a difference between the black powder and smokeless burn rates (or something???)?
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Hairy, E-mail me and let me send you a reloading manual. John
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I can understand the confusion. Generally speaking, air space is normal with all but full power SMOKELESS powder loads. However air space with BLACK powder is an invitation to disaster. (Differences in their charachteristics).
Be careful; there are literally dozens of smokeless powders available, not all of which are appropriate for your caliber. With the 45/70 there are special considerations. There are loads for the old "Springfield Trap-door" which must be mild because of the strength (or lack) of the action.Within this category there are also "target" loads, "plinkers" and "service" loads.
More powerful loads may be used in modern rifles like the Ruger or Marlin.
Extremely powerful loads can be fired in converted "Siamese Mausers" that are literally elephant guns!
Please let me know what kind of rifle you are using, and to what purpose you will use the ammo, and I will gladly suggest some appropriate loads.
Morty
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pardon me for interupting but i have a summit 45-70 built on an enfield receiver.if King999 can recommend some loads for this rifle as well i would be most grateful.thanks.
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King999: I have 3 antique trapdoors (45-70), 2 rifles and 1 carbine and 1 modern replica Sharps carbine.
I only intend to shoot them at paper targets, so I'm looking for a light load. I was told the 45-50 load with a 305 bullet is a good load for this purpose. BUT--at $1.00 per round, the idea of reloading seems valid. Your help is solicited (and anyone else for that matter!!). [8D]
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drygulchdan load it no more than reccomended for Marlin 1895's. This action was originally built for low pressure rounds like the 303 Brit and 30-40 Krag type cartridges.
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Hairy; A good, 100 yd paper puncher is a 400-410 gr lead bullet over
20-22 gr #2400 or AA #9, or 12 gr Unique or AA #5. These are NOT popgun loads. They will get the bullet downrange nicely with little recoil. I would also recommend the use of MAGNUM primers to make sure that the charge (little powder in big case) is ignited propperly.
Lots of people prefer the lighter bullet, and I cannot fault that. Just increase my recommended charges about 10%for a 300 gr bullet. DO NOT use jacketed bullets.
Morty
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DRYGULCH; Probably your best SAFE load is about 58 gr #3031 with a 400 gr jacketed bullet. Believe it or not the Siamese is definitely stronger than the 1917.
Morty
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King999: Thanks--I'm off to buy the equipment, bullets, and powder. Now to convince my wife that I'm "saving money." [8D]
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