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Are The EAA Shotguns really any good?

NOTPARS
Yeah, I know, define good.I was thinking in terms of accuracy, reliability, and longevity of use. Several gun magazines have tested EAA shotguns, an over and under, a semi-auto, and a pump. Two I believe were made in Russia and one in Turkey. The magazines (yeah, I know, not always objective) said that for the price they were great. The semi-auto ran between $450-500, the over and under almost the same, and the pump about half. Everyone wants a deal but we also don't want junk. I was wondering if anyone has any thoughts on them seeing that so many over and unders go for over $1000.
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  • rhmc24
    I have two of the Russian and one Turkish shotgun. I don't shoot a lot but have been into gunsmithing nigh 50 years. I have the Baikal 20 ga. O/U. Have the .410 automatic made on the AK 47 principle. The Turk is made by Sarcilmaz. The 20ga O/U externally is a cut above the low priced US made shotguns in fit and finish. It has all the bells and whistles that the expensive guns have, single trigger, screw in chokes, vent rib, ejectors, etc. Perfect bore but when you look at the machining inside there are a lot of tool marks, none of which adversely affect performance. Small parts inside are mostly stamped sheet metal, but seem to be properly heat treated for long life. The .410 automatic is as roughly made and finished as would be expected of a military piece. So far it is perfect in function. The Turk, not from EAA, but in the $300 dealer price range is a plain jane, no single trigger or any thing other than the basics. Even so, it is much more finely made than the Russian in fit and finish. I haven't opened it up completely but what you see when you open the breech is far better finishing than the Russky. Beautiful wood. Nice checkering. Apparently a lot more individual handwork than the Baikal. I think they are all excellent value in what you get for the money. Hope this helps.
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  • bobski
    middle east mfg's and russians havent learned the importance of quality control yet. theyre desperate to make money and live. its the bottom dollar that interests them, not your complaints. what does that tell you about who gets caught holding the dirty end of the stick 10 - 15 years from now...if theyre still around?
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  • NOTPARS
    For rhmc24:

    Thanks, coming from a gunsmith, this is valuable information. So far the gun magazines love them. I looke up prices for over/unders last night and most seem to be in the $1500 and up range. The Benelli's and Kimbers are way out of sight in price. The auto's more reasonable. But these shotguns are so much cheaper. Anyway, thanks. I will have to check them out myself.
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  • NOTPARS
    For bobski, that is my big concern. What happens after I have shot it
    for a while? Will it hold up? Is it worth the savings if it falls apart? I have a friend who runs a small gun store and swears that Remington's are junk.
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  • drobs
    I have some friends that own the Baikal O/U 12ga's who have been really happy with them. I briefly owned a Charles Daley Semi which was a turd. I'm planning on buying a Baikal O/U or SXS for my next shotgun.

    Regards,
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  • gunner8479
    I work in a gun shop and we have sold alot of Baikal MP-153 semi-auto shotguns. We've also sold alot of Remington semi-autos too.

    Between the two, we've sold more Baikals and NOT ONE has returned with a complaint. As far as the Remingtons, I really hate to say it but truth be told: We've received more complaints on the Remingtons such as misfeeding, lost bolt handles, etc... and remember, most customers who have purchaased the Baikal wanted a Remington but couldn't afford it. These particular customers who purchased the Baikals really use & abuse their shotgun versus the Remington customers who "baby" their shotgun. But still in the end the Remingtons come back with problems.[:(]

    Hey, I own a Remington shotgun but the truth is the Baikals are giving the other makers a run for their money!

    gunner8479
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  • sck
    If you're looking for a good quality over and under that doesn't cost an arm and a leg, look at Traditons brand. Yes, I know that these are the folks best known for their muzzleloaders but they have a very nice selection of O/U shotguns. I think they are Italian. Not quite the quality of Beretta, but better than anything out of Russia or Turkey by a long shot. You should be able to find one in the $400-$500 range. The next step up from there in terms of best quality for the lowest price is probably SKB, but they are made in Japan and lots of folks, including me, object to seeing our money go to Japan. Best of luck
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