Buying an AR 15
I would like to purchase an AR-15 and have a few questions. What is the difference between preban and postban? If I buy and upper and a lower is that all I need or what else do I need? I would like to add a scope later on, do I need a special upper? I would like to purchase a coplete working rifle but It looks to be cheaper to just buy an upper and a lower, is this true? Can anybody recommend a good complete set up for me? I will eventually use it for deer or elk. And if nothing else, just for plinking prairie dogs. Do I have to have a rifle shipped to a FFL holder if it is sent in pieces in separate boxes or is that even legal? Please send replies to jdmonty77@rushmore.com
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You'll have to go post ban config (unless you want to spend $500 more on a preban). Difference is flash hider, bayonet lug, and Folding/collapsible stock are a no no on the post ban while legal on the preban. You can build a good AR for @$600 with the building part consisting of putting the lower receiver parts into a stripped lower and then setting the upper (comes ready to go) on the lower and putting two pins in place that hold them together (not hard, I helped a buddy put his together in about 1 hour with no prior experience for either of us). It is legal to build your own, but in Post ban only!!! (hopefully won't matter next year if the AW ban sunsets, then you'll be able to use any of the "evil" features. Check out AR15.com and get all the info you ever needed on the AR (check the tacked posts under "build it yourself" first). 0 -
If you are going to buy the 2 separate halves you need to make sure you get a complete upper & complete lower. Some uppers may come sans the bolt assebly & charging handle. Make sure you get a complete one & you should be fine.
Looking on here at prices for complete uppers & lowers, if I were you I would buy a complete Rock River for $649:
http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=11058744
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Drobs is 100% correct RRA is the way to go on a AR15.
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It's not gun control.It's personal defence elemanation. They only want to control ours.0 -
I just bought an RRA (Rock River) Tactical Entry and I'm very happy with it. I've shot ABC (Armalite, Bushmaster, Colt) and the RRA IMHO is just a good as A&C and better than B. As mentioned, check out ar15.com.
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I currently have a Colt 6700 and an Armalite M15A2. Both are post-ban and I am very pleased with the accuracy of both.
IMHO....the .223 is not the best choice for either elk or deer hunting. They would do the job, but there are far better options out there.
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I second that don't use it for elk or deer!
.223 is more a varmit caliber than a deer caliber. If you are going to hunt for that the idea is to have the biggest you can handle caliber to make for a clean kill.
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Buying a complete rifle will be cheaper. However buying in parts allows you to send less money at one time, if the amount is a problem. As for hunting purpose the .223 is marginal for deer but will do the job. My friend has taken plenty with a 700 remington in .223 with hollow points. I would not use .223 for elk. I wouldn't worry about pre-post ban guns. The pre ban is not worth the extra money in my veiw from a shooters stand point. 0 -
Here we go again! Remember, the AR-15 was made by Colt only and was discontinued about 20 years ago, to be followed by the Colt AR-15A2, which was in turn discontinued in the early 1990s. Therefore, all Colt AR-15 and AR-15A2 rifles are so stamped on the receiver and by definition are "Pre-Ban." They have considerable collector interest so the market price is higher than clones and Post-Ban rifles. I believe the value will remain high on "real" AR-15/A2 Colt rifles even if the ban sunsets as it appears it will. Therefore, purchasing a good one is a good investment.
Post-Ban Colt rifles are identified as Match Targets and are so stamped on the receiver.0 -
You might look at www.model1sales.com and check out there kits. The only thing you dont get is a stripped lower. 0 -
E-BS, if you want to hunt with an "ar15" type rifle, consider the AR10 from ArmaLite. It gives you the ergonomics of the m15 style but uses the .308/7.62 NATO. You can get surplus ammo for plinking or use quality ammo for hunting/distance target. If you don't want the lifetime warrenty, consider an Eagle Arms for less $$$, same factory as ArmaLite. The .308 will run just a little more than a complete m15. I've shot an AR104 carbine with a brake and the recoil is only slightly[u/] greater than the m15. You can now get the .308's with or without the brake.[8D] 0 -
E-BS, if you want to hunt with an "ar15" type rifle, consider the AR10 from ArmaLite. It gives you the ergonomics of the m15 style but uses the .308/7.62 NATO. You can get surplus ammo for plinking or use quality ammo for hunting/distance target. If you don't want the lifetime warrenty, consider an Eagle Arms for less $$$, same factory as ArmaLite. The .308 will run just a little more than a complete m15. I've shot an AR104 carbine with a brake and the recoil is only slightly[u/] greater than the m15. You can now get the .308's with or without the brake.[8D] 0
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