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teak....wish that this was my rifle, but I'm looking for this info for someone else. He has a Remington Rolling Block Creedmore with a barrel marked 44S. I assume this to be a 44-77 or 44-90 Sharps BN. Here is the wrinkle. The case length is 2.75" long which is longer than either of the above. I cannot find anything in the old Remington Creedmore cartridges that match either. He thinks it might be a Remington developmental cartridge to get a little more power for their 1000 yard Creedmore rifles. Anything ring a bell in your vast storehouse?
max
load the old ones with the old tools.....
max
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Max, I am aware of 2.625" and 2.875" BN loadings, as well as some unusual variations slightly longer than the standard .44-90-2.4" but I have no reference to any 2.75" loading. The longer cases typically had slightly more powder (100 to 110 gr) and usually somewhat heavier bullets (550 gr). 0 -
teak.....I was aware of the 2.625", but not the 2.875". Interesting that the 2.75" in right in the middle. I have asked him to verify that the length is indeed 2.75", but I believe that it is. The rifle has a 34" barrel, so someone was trying to reach out there. Who knows, maybe we will add another line to your reference. I shall return.
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Blackpowdermax;
Many years ago, My Grandfather had a Creedmore such as you discribe. It is a custom convertion, Long range rifle fitted with double set triggers, hooded front and tang mounted vermeer sights.
It is chambered for a custom .44-130-540 cartridge. After my Father's passing I was given the rifle, along with the bullet mold, cases, and Dad's loading data. Like you're gun it calls for a case length of 2.755".
According to the paper work for the rifle and what my Grand dad and Dad told me, The convertion was done just before the turn of the century. It's original calibration was .44-90 Sharps, as is still stamped on the head ring of the reciever. This one has a 34" tube as well. Perhaps, your's has had simular treatment.
P.S. The cases are formed from .50-150 brass. Trimmed to length and necked down to accomadate the .44 bullet. You might measure the chamber diameter, This one measures .520" at the mouth inside the rim.
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Python.....WOW!!! 44-130-540...I like it. I'm putting 90 grains behind a 370 grain bullet in a 40 caliber and it gets my attention. Yours should be fun to shoot all day. You can never let anyone borrow it and shoot it, they could sue you for whiplash.
I will run your info by the rifle's owner. It sounds like you may have something in common.
44-130-540.....that's got to be a cloud of smoke when that one goes off.
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