Load to Duplicate

ndbilly

July 27, 2003 12:08

Federal 130 gr. JHP Hydra-Shock. Shot some today and loved them. Would like to duplicate with a reload. Anyone have a load worked up for this one?

Thanks,

Bill

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  pack rat633

  July 27, 2003 12:24

  What caliber??
  
  SEMPER FI MAC, SEMPER FI

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  Iconoclast

  July 27, 2003 12:54

  ndbilly, what about using a slightly lower charge of 2400 in your 158gr handloads or Unique? I've shot Unique with 158gr projectiles of all types in my .357s forever and use every case until the mouth splits or the primer pocket gets loose; that's a lot of handloads! Most of my brass is nickel plated and that might help with your extraction problem.

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  ndbilly

  July 27, 2003 14:14

  Sorry, pack rat, this was a continuation from another thread - .357 is the caliber.
  
  iconoclast - Yeah, that's a good point. Only ever used Unique for mild target stuff in .38 Spl. Shared a loading bench with a friend and he was always hinky about a double-charge with Unique as the weight of the loads is so light. It's just that the old load worked, and still does in my other .357's, so well. Anyhow, thanks for the tip.

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  warcrob

  July 27, 2003 14:28

  Are these loads for personal protection or for hunting?
  
  The reason I ask is that if they are for personal defense and you use them in a defensive shooting, you could have a lot of explaining to do in court.
  
  An attorney looking to find you guilty could say that because of your handloads you were looking for a more damaging effect with your personal defense round.
  
  Be carefull not to put a noose around your own neck.
  
  If you ain't got a sense of humor you got no business bein here!

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  Acyman

  July 27, 2003 14:53

  That's a lot of hokey, started by Massaad Ayoob, because he's part owner of Cor Bon ammo company. There's yet to be a case wherein reloads made a criminal issue, and only 3-4 were they were even a peripheral issue in a civil suit. In a 357, I'd tend to stick with factory ammo, because nothing much in the way of a reload helps its conbat performance much, if at all.

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  Pelican

  July 27, 2003 15:35

  "An attorney looking to find you guilty could say that because of your handloads you were looking for a more damaging effect with your personal defense round."
  
  The whole purpose in shooting someone is to kill them. What could be more 'damaging'? If handloads make them more 'dead' then so be it.
  

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  Sarcastic humor a specialty
  
  Audemus jura nostra defendere"

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  trooperchin

  July 27, 2003 15:58

  quote:The whole purpose in shooting someone is to kill them
  
  Then why does the military use FMJ?
  Stir..Stir...
  
  Go Army Beat Navy
  IF you wanna have fun join the cavalry

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  Xracer

  July 27, 2003 16:44

  Because they're required to do so under the Geneva Convention.

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  htj

  July 27, 2003 18:28

  You might check to see what load is used by a local P.D. in the same caliber or what load if any was used prior to transition to the present caliber and duplicate it. Kind of hard for a prosecuter to condem a load that duplicates current or previous P.D. issue.

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  Delta514

  July 27, 2003 18:42

  I reckon: because the Militray would rather wound than kill, unless of course, it is a High Ranking Officer. The Geneva Convention considered Maiming a NO NO. [:(] Our Law Enforcement doesn't feel the same? The reason I believe is: Because all Citizens are Criminals, or Potential Criminals. Lucky for us; All Law Enforcement are immune to vices such as Animosity, Revenge, Greed, or Pettiness.
  
  I would consider the Gold Dot Hollow Point, even tho it is extremely ugly, it is also very accurate.
  
  In the cooler climates, the way to test expansion: Find a Snow bank, freshly pushed up, lay a thin piece of plywood against it and fire a couple rounds into it. Come back when the snow melts.
  
  I do know of a Kentucky State Police Officer; which was shot 6 times with a .357. One shot took the back of his Heart off, at least one went through his groin. He said the others went where they wanted too. This happened in about- 1976, and he related the story to me a few months back.
  
  I shot the .357 many a time, reloaded it quite a bit. I had occasion to shoot a Deer with the .357 - through the back of the head; the deer sat on her haunches and blated. I have never picked up a .357 since. Within the week, I bought a .41 Magnum and have never looked back.
  
  And if anyone is curious: It was an Undercover Drug Deal gone bad.
  [}:)]
  
  Ronnie G. Perkins

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