Hopkins & Allen rifle caliber??
My grandpa has a small rifle that I am trying to get some info on. It is a single shot with what I think is called a fallaway block?? It says Hopkins and Allen Arms Co., Norwick, Conn USA on the barrel. It also says No. 822 I don't know if that is the model or serial number. It does not say what the caliber on it anywhere. Any info would be greatly appreciated.
John
John
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Hopkins & Allen Falling Block Rifles were made in a variety of calibers from .22 to .38-55. They were single shot rifles with 24", 26", or 28" octagonal barrels. Blued with a walnut stock. Manufactured between 1888 and 1914.
The Number 822 should be a .22 rimfire.
Value would depend on condition....from about $100 for a 60% rifle up to about $200 for a 95% rifle.0 -
I forgot to mention that it is a shade bigger than a .22. A .22 will fit in it but it is a loose fit it is real close to going all the way through. Grandpa said he was told that it may be a .25 whichis what I first thought. I had just never heard of a .25 rifle cartridge. Also the barrel is round. The reciever is octagon shaped though. Unfortunately it is in pretty poor shape. They said that my uncle found it in a old chicken house about 40 or 50 years ago. Thanks again for any responses.
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.25 STEVENS RIMFIRE
check out seller waltsgun and search auctions ending in the last 90 days. we just sold our last box, but at least you will know what it looks like. as far as i know, there is no current or recent (last 25 years) manufacture of this cartridge. CANUK, CIL, and DOMINION made them in the 60`s. you can still find a box or to at gunshows, or here on GB at auctuion. i have searched high and low for a scource of new ammo, but cannot find one.
.25 SHORT: originaly developed for the "BACON & BLISS" revolver in 1860. listed in the REMINGTON and WINCHESTER catalogs until 1920. there is no record of this rimfire round ever being chambered in a rifle.
.25 STEVENS SHORT: introduced in 1902 as a shorter, cheaper alternative to the .25 STEVENS. REMINGTON, WINCHESTER, and STEVENS all discontinued this chambering in 1942.
.25 STEVENS: some dispute on the exact date this round was introduced. first cataloged in 1898. everybody dropped the cartridge in 1942. REMINGTON continued development on an improved, high velocity version designated the .267 REMINGTON RIMFIRE but it never went anywere.
i wish i could help you find some. we had 3 full boxes in the shop, but they sold very quickly. we had them priced at $79.99 per 50 round box. best regards, mike.
What other dungeon is so dark as ones own heart, what jailer so inexorable as ones own mind.0 -
H & A did make that rifle in a .25 RF, but it should be a Number 925. 0 -
Haven't a clue: I am familier with some of the Hopkins and Allen, as well as other companys Ethan Allen was partners in - Allen-Wheelock for example. Have you considered the 22WRF? [;)]
Ronnie G. Perkins0 -
jd....I have a Hopkins and Allen 822 and it is 22 rimfire. Also have an old Ballard 22 that was rebored to 25 Stevens rimfire by the Stevens A&T Co. A 22 long rifle drops to the bottom of the chamber. Won't quite make it thru the bore, but close. I would guess your rifle was re-chambered to a 22 WRF as mentioned above. In the condition you describe, the old H&A might not be safe to shoot, so take care even if you can find ammo.
max
load the old ones with the old tools.....0
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