1187 or 1100?
i was wondering which one is better and why. i will be buying one of them
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Remington traditionally made few changes moodel to model. I have sold both but fired only the 1100. Most prefer the 1100, and now the 1100 is in more demand than when it was predominate. I don't think you can go wrong either way. Find the best price and the best condition and go for it. [;)]
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I don't know why, but I've had better luck shooting low brass out
of the 1100 than the 11-87.0 -
If memory serves, the 1187 is about a half pound heavier than the 1100, but I think that is because the 12 gauge is designed to shoot both the 2 3/4" and also the 3" shells whereas the 1100 is made just for one or the other (depending on whether it is the magnum or standard reciever). Also, the 11-87 predominately used choke tubes whereas many 1100's used fixed chokes.
I've never owned either one in a 12 gauge, but I do currently have a 1100 .410 with a full barrel set (Skeet, Improved Cylinder, Modified, & Full).
I opted for a Benelli Super Black Eagle because it would shoot 2 3/4", 3" and 3 1/2" magnums without adjustment and is very easy to clean and, depending on barrel length, it is lighter than many 1100 or 11-87's.0 -
I owne both a 1100 and 11-87 i use my 11-87 for everything and anything from skeet to doves to deer or turkey... i can shoot factory 2 3/4 or *hot* reloads and with the remchoke system it sure makes it nice to slip the extra-full choke in for them long bearded gobblers that just dont wanna come in that extra few yards a regular full choke would need, both are great shotguns... the 1100 is more use specific, meaning you either buy a magnum or regular reciever and then you have to have different barrels for different chokes... but if the price is right you cant' go wrong either way 0 -
what every one else has said and it seems most people think the 1100 points better than the 1187 when used for shooting clay's , skeet trap what ever ,, you can get barrels for the 1100 that have the Rem chokes I have both I use the 1187 more but then I use it for hunting , if I where you I would try to find a rod and gun club where i could go and ask some other shooter if I could try their guns on a few rounds and see which one I like better 0 -
never liked the way the 11-87 forearm needed a brass pin to hold it together. it just looked cheap. you know..build a perfect gun, then drill a hole and slam a piece of brass into the wood. nope...i'll stick with my 1100's. i shoot a standard grade 1972 skeet 26" 12ga. never failed me yet. curious....what do you want to shoot with them?
former air operations officer SEAL Delivery Vehicle Team 2. former navy skeet team, navy rifle/pistol team member. co-owner skeetmaster tubes inc.. owner/operator professional shooting instruction.0 -
Maybe someone here can help me as I'm a newby. Just bought an 1100 12guage. It says TRAP right above the trigger. The barrels it came with are labeled Skeet and full. It has the fleur de lie checkering design and remington told me it was made about 1981. Is this a special trap or skeet gun? I plan on using it for skeet or some other clay target games. I'm not really a hunter. I have seen barrels for sale with rem-choke . Can these be used for this gun and then I would be able to change the chokes on it?
Jwints <><0 -
11-87, just for the simple fact that you can change chokes within a matter of seconds. 0 -
if the gun has 'trap' on the receiver, its a trap gun. the full came with the gun. sounds like he bought a skeet bbl to have extra. you got a great combo. everyone forgets a very important point about the history of chokes. screw in chokes are actually a step backwards in technology. bbls were built with chokes fixed inside the bbl. the only way people could change chokes was to either change bbls or bore it out. so....around 1930 or 1940 the cutts compensator came out where you could change chokes without changing bbls. it was big and ugly but the choke race was on. then...the genious polychoke came out followed by numerous look-alikes , where you could twist the choke you wanted. no wrench, no nothing. it was simple and worked. but, it was ugly. matter of fact, the old timers here will remember the famous autochokes where the second shot automatically either tightened up or opened up...depending the way you set it. genious. but no one liked big ugly things on the ends of bbls. so here came the screw in chokes. purpose? nothing more than to make a gun pretty. oh sure you can get 125 different combos of chokes, but has anyone ever gone out to a blind and forgot the choke wrench? or, i challenge anyon to try to chage a choke while the birds are flying! (the poly could.) or, youre called to the field for a shootff and you cant remember what choke you have in your gun until its too late and youre missing doubles because you have an x-full in it from last nights 27 yd trap game? be honest! or, you forget to put a choke in and ruin your threads? oh yeah! so, saying the 11-87 is a better gun for screw in chokes in in my opinion, is a step backwards. just food for thought. i like having the extra bbl. you dont have to use transmision fluid to loosen the chokes that get stuck in them. just change and go. enjoy your old set. hope it serves you well and dont let anyone badger you into quote: 'moving up to screw ins.' its a farse. 0 -
Bobski, I've had a lot of both - screw in and regular chokes. The only poly-choke gun I ever used was a Montgomery Ward (western field if memory serves) and it was a major piece of junk. One of the first times I used the gun, I borrowed it from my wife's grandmother and my brother-in-law borrowed a 1400 Winchester with screw-ins. After shooting several boxes and not dropping many (if any) doves I went over to my brother-in-law and asked to trade guns with him the rest of the hunt. I ended up limiting out with only a few misses. He didn't hit anything with that gun either. Later, we patterned it (out of curiosity) and depending on how you moved the choke it actually diverted the shot one way or another.
Now, as far as barrels with built-in chokes - I can't tell the difference. I'm sure SOMEONE can, but not me. Incidentally, none of the Remington's that I've had would pattern with my Benelli Super Black Eagle.
Here's my only current 1100, a .410 (with all barrels):
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nice set! we all know those old winchesters are just great guns! all the workers took pride in their work. i like those 1400's. on to bbls....all bbls with fixed chokes are cut and polished at the factory in a jig to simulate a gun alignment. if the choke is off and the customer requests, corrections can be made with a little polishing on either of the 4 corners inside the choke area to effect pattern. when choke tubes are made, they are made out of a gun...or even worse...out of YOUR gun. just one overtwist or lose insert will effect pattern as it fits into your gun, which can cause a change in pattern. once a fixed bbl is tuned, theres no changing it. it stays true, unless you shoot it out with steel shot. follow me? if a smith put a cutts or poly on crooked, they did have a bad rap, but it was just bad smithing. hey...it can happen with screw ins too. ive seen many ruined bbls by smiths screwing up the threads! so, it balances out...if cutts or poly's, fixed bbls, or screw ins are done right....the odds of a screw in (including cutts) being inserted wrong still exists while fixed bbls dont change. follow me? thanks for your post. 0 -
Bobski, theoretically there sure should be some benefit to solid choked barrels instead of poly or removeable chokes. However, I can't tell it. I consider myself better than average with a shotgun (and average on rifle, and below average now on pistols [V]).
I'll sure grant ya that a Winchester 1400 is a MUCH better gun than that ol' Western Field pump. [:I]0 -
Thanks guys, I wanted to learn more about the gun and have had very little luck on websites etc... I'm looking forward to shooting with it. Gotta heal up my back first. Got a bulging disc or something that I have to go see a specialist about next month. In the meantime I'm gonna learn as much as I can about it.
Thanks!
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