2-3 opinionts mean nothing, especially when
they come from people who've never dared try anything new for themselves. Anyone can make the 60 gr jhps (epoxy cored) like I did. Takes about an hour to make 20 or so. Then it takes a few minutes to load one over 7 grs of Bullseye, to notice such a load wont work the slide, and work your way up, 1 gr of powder at a time, until the slide cycles softly (16 lb normal recoil spring) then install the heavy spring, add another grain, and work up until the slide cycles, normall, then cycles at Plus P levels (except you never get such pressures with a 60 gr .45 bullet). Then you will know that I am correct, and that the sticks-in-the-mud here were wrong. The overload testing was done with 230 gr bullets, not 60 gr bullets.
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you asked for an opinion i gave you mine i am not going to say i'm right i may not be. if i were you i would just go ahead and try it the gun companies make new 1911's every day. your wife if your married may not agree with me on this point though 0 -
I read the latest locked thread on this subject, and my first reaction was, "HUH?" Then I found preceeding threads and read them, and my reaction was, "HUH?"
I recently read an article about .22/284 bullets driven to high velocities that disappear in the air, because they virtually explode from the high velocity vs. the atmosphere. Sounds like your bullets, if they surivive the trip to the target, would be largely ineffective. I would also wonder about the accuracy, if they survive the trip.
So.....what is your point? That you can obtain a relatively (and I emphasize relatively, because some bullets in some guns are driven above 4,000 fps) high velocity from a 1911? The 1911's fame, of which I am an ardent fan, was built on it's effectiveness upon arrival at the target. 230 gr. at 830 fps works just fine. You need to do your research, and arguements, in the varmint rifle field; preferably on another forum. Odd how you started off, "Would you believe?" and progressed to hostility. Don't go away mad........0 -
Acy;
You started out asking, is this possible, wound up, I have done it, it works you're wrong. FINE. I've worked up some very forousish
wildcats in rifles, HEAVYLY FORTIFIED RIFLES. So by all means keep it up. Knock yourself out. I've been Smithing and building guns, in all likelyhood, longer than you've been alive. So, as I said, have a ball.
but when it catches up, and it will, You can't say you were'nt warned. Don't you think IF this was a safe, reliable, and durable loading for the calibers you mention, the gun makers and ammo crafters of the world would not have jumped on it? Don't try to second guess Engineers and metalurgists of thier experience, It will come back to bite you. You may get by with it, for a while, but sooner or later,,,, If you think you're math is correct, Spend some bucks and prove it in the ballistics lab. Until then,,,,
Kill all the lawyers and the world will be much better for it.0 -
I can see the idea of reloading for a lighter bullet.
I do believe, though that if the same lighter bullet - should do the same job (have the same energy) it would need a higher speed.
Laws of physics apply here.
The lighter bullet doesn't take the same pressure to travel the same speed - because of the weight.
BUT if the lighter bullet will do the same job as the heavy bullet, despite it's smaller weight, it would need to have the extra speed.
But since it is the same weapon - the same hand that will support the weapon and support the recoil...
I CHOOSE to doubt the fact that it won't have much recoil.
Because I would think you should still feel the same recoil.
But then again, I don't reload myself.
And I would be more interested in finding a load that is just below the speed of sound - as I'm mostly into regular shooting and using silencers. But that's me.
Don't do anything that I've allready done - That'd be just plain STOOOOOOPID.0 -
This is a good a time and place as any to apply my "Grandfathers" Philosophy: "NEVER START VAST PROJECTS WITH HALFVAST IDEAS" [;)]
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