22L.R.Convertion to 22 mag.?
Got an older savage bolt,tube fed...is it possible?
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Very unlikely; Action is not long enough to feed cartridges...for starters..2'nly I suspect that the Ramp will be to short...You might do some meaurement and see if you could convert it to a Singleshot...?
Captain Kirk, Tech Staff0 -
The 22lr uses a .223 bore and the 22 mag uses a .224 bore. You would end up with higher pressure using the 22mag cartridge in a 22lr bore.
Could end up with a ruptured case or may never cause a problem.
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That .001 is not enough to worry about. Especially when shooting lead bullets. I don't know why the conversion couldn't be done, can't imagine these manufactures making an action for the 22LR and than making another sized action for the 22MAG. Ruger makes the 10/22 in both 22LR and 22mag and I would think it is the same length action and just the chamber and magazine have any difference too them.
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aglore@gci.net0 -
Problem is the .22 mag is NOT a lead bullet. It does not seem likely that any .22 LR bolt action was ever built with the expection of the pressures caused by both the .22mag cartridge AND the undersize barrel.
The Ruger rifles are two different guns that just happen to look alike. The recievers are different lenghts & made of different materials, the recoil systems are designed for differnt pressures & the ID of the barrels are different.0 -
Gruntled;
Not to start an argument but what kind of a recoil system do you refer to in a bolt action? Also, I just cut into a magnum round I have here and althouth it is copper coated, it is definitely lead underneath. What brand do you use that is not lead? I think I would like to try them out on these dam hard headed squirrels around here!! Tom
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The magnum bullet is going to be harder because of the copper coating. (I never cut one open I always thought they were jacketed. A day is not lost that you learn something new.)
Note that the original topic involved a bolt action rifle but that there was a later mention of the Ruger .22 LR & .22 magnum semi-auto rifles & those were the recoil systems I was refering to but the bolt action still would be suspect if it had been designed for a .22 LR.0 -
You're BOTH right! 22Mag bullets ARE jacketed AND copper washed!
Check out the ones with the Hornady bullets; they're jacketed.
I think Sierra's are used with another brand (jacketed).
Winchesters are copper-washed lead in the FMJ's.
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SOME!!! 22 LR actions are strong enough for the conversion many are not. Many have only one locking point being the bolt handle. Others like the Remington 510 series have two. The bolt handle on one side and an additional lug on the other. The remington 580 has six locking lugs (similar to the 788 centerfire rifel). There are very few absolutes and few gunsmiths are willing to accept the liability or give you a go-ahead without looking at the specific gun. I called Smith and Wesson yesterday looking for a 22 magnum stainless cylinder and barrel for a conversion project. The rep told me that the 22lr measures .222 and the mag .224. First time I heard this. So the answer to your question is yes and know. Many of the older guns I would be very careful with. For what it's worth. Tom 0 -
There are many .22 Mag rounds that are merely copper flashed, the .001 will not effect the pressures to a great degree, the Pressure between the .22lr and The Mag are already greatly separated.
LONG! This is not the best Idea you ever had. But if you are insistent; Please Consider going to the .22WRF. When the Bolt handle Shears on the .22Lr, there is only one place for it to go. (What kind of Flowers do you like?)
Most .22 Bolt Actions are not strong enough for the pressures of the Magnum. The .22 WRF would be pushing the envelope. But Overall Length is much more compatible and Pressures are not much more than a Super High Velocity .22 Stinger or Zapper Round. CCI now makes the .22WRF at an affordable price (less than the Magnums). [;)] The Appropriate Ream can be purchased at about any Fastner Wholesale (such as "Jiffy Fastner", for about 6 bucks.) Sounds Interesting Friend. [;)]
Ronnie G. Perkins0 -
To use up the 10 post rule I will add another variable.
I have an old Winchester 1890 WRF that I gave $12.00 for many years ago. It has two different serial #'s and has a Marlin 22 S,L,LR barrel on it. The old smith that put it together stressed that I should know the difference between LR,s and WRF,s. The action was originally made for WRF so that wasn't a concern. When I bought it I was young enough that the 22 LR barrel didn't concern me either. I used it for a truck gun for many years and shot many boxes of shells through it. I never saw any indication of overpressure or cartridge failure. It was really pretty accurate, and cheap. I have often thought a 1890 could be converted to 22 magnum and be plenty strong enough to handle the pressures.
I don't shoot this rifle anymore, but I still would.
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