Slug for non-rifled shotgun
Just checking....
Do i use rifled slugs for a non-rifled barrel??
Thanks
Do i use rifled slugs for a non-rifled barrel??
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Yes, you use a "rifled" slug in a smooth bore shotgun barrel, just be careful of the types of choke system you use with a slug, some chokes do not take kindly to slugs. And prepare for a good wallop from the recoil if it's a 12 gauge.
This article gives you a little information you might find useful, it's for hunting but it can be applied to many other things concerning shotguns and slugs
http://www.gameandfishmag.com/whitetaildeer/gf_aa106402a/
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It it helps, I would be putting them through my mossberg 500 persuader. smooth-bore, cylinder 0 -
Shouldn't have a problem, I put slugs through my mossberg 500 without any problems.
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For "accuracy" at longer ranges - 75 yards or so - I'd have a go with rifled slugs as mentioned.
They provide the stability, as they themselves start to turn.
The rifling or the fins - wil also allow it to run through a choke - but as mentioned, some chokes doesn't take slugs too well.
For shorter ranges - up to maybe 20 yards.
Regular slugs or sabot-slugs can perforn wonderfully.
But with less accuracy.
I'd go with rifled slugs any day - as they are available in a variety of sizes - have even seen cartridges with Double Slugs. (two rifled slugs. I don't know how usefull they are though, never tried them.)
But it's a good tool for for instance wild boar or similar nasty critters that packs a good bite when angry.
Happy hunting.
Don't do anything that I've allready done - That'd be just plain STOOOOOOPID.0 -
We have to hunt with shotguns only here in southern Minn. and a lot of this has been debated for years. The fins on the Foster type slugs are pretty much only to fill up the bore and to obturate given that they never know what type of choke someone is going to use. Until 20 years ago nobody thought much different about putting slugs down full choked guns. Never heard of any problems. Sporting mags have gone over this a few times the last couple years, so you might look up back issues.
Saboted slugs in a smooth bore may or may not improve accuracy/range.
I've seen it both ways. They are pretty much dedicated to rifled bores (or choke tubes). Even then the rifling is pretty slow as determined by speed and bore size. From what we've seen, sabots in a smooth bore is too much money for too little improvement. In a rifled bore or choke, that's a whole different ball game.
I've got an older hunting partner that uses an old mossberg with full choke with fosters that is downright deadly out to 75 to 100 yards. He has a little experience, as he is 85 years young. I just go along
to drag 'em out and give him some comic relief. Each gun shoots slugs, even different brands differently. I think I read Remington is coming out with a new design this year that is supposed to be a marked improvement for smooth bores.0 -
I thought that the general rule was SABOTS are a NONO when it comes to smoothbore barrels. It is my understanding that Sabots are for rifled barrels only.
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You *can* fire a sabot from a smoothbore but they aren't really effective unless you have a screw on rifled choke to put some spin on it to help it shed the plastic sleeve and put a little bit of a stabalizing spin on the round. Without the rifled choke though when I tried it just to see for myself what it does you tend to get flyers that go where they want to.
If you are going to go with the sabots get a rifled barrel or at least a barrel that you can attach a rifled choke to. There is a VAST difference in range and accuracy from a slug gun with a rifled barrel but they are only good for throwing slugs, bird shot or buck shot it flicks all over the place.
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Liability would be too great for manufactures to allow ammo out that wouldn't squeeze down a full choke bore. That's why (in part) slugs are hollow and "rifled".
My guess is that there really isn't enough traction in the barrel to give much of a spin, but there's enough to give a really impressive buzz when one sails by not too far from your head.
A more stable projectile would be solid with a boat-tail. A nice spin would be a good thing, but that's next to impossible in a smoothbore. The problem is that solid rounds don't want to deform to the tube dimensions and neither does the tube.
Sabots are used with a fair amount of success in many types of weapons. I think it would be reasonable to say that Iraqi tankers (the living one's) would give testimony to that fact.
Sabots in scatterguns are another matter, but I think not for safety reasons... A sabot relies on the tube to attain velocity and stability. Stability is greatly effected by a change in bore diameter such is encountered when a choke reduces the tube diameter just as the sabot leaves the barrel. Tube length is also a factor. In a smoothbore gun it may not be possible to stabilize a projectile over a 30" travel to any satisfactory degree.
Give that sabot a twist, though, and it's a whole new game.
Nord0 -
Rifled Barrels and Rifled Slugs will not function well, the Slugs have a tendency to be rifled reverse of the Barrel twist.
Sabot Slugs for a Rifled Barrel. For the Smooth Bore, a Rifled Slug.
Even tho the rifled slug gives only a minimum spin, it can enhance accuracy. The Sabot in a Rifled Barrel is as accurate as many HiPowered Rifles at 200yds.
Another option: Rifled Choke, Not as accurate as a Rifled Barrel but better than a smooth bore. [;)]
Ronnie G. Perkins0 -
Another CAUTION: Never shoot Slugs through a Full Choke. [xx(]
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