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Dutch? flintlock

albatrosdva
i am looking at an old flintlock made like a Charleville but it has some wierd markings. they apear to be dutch but i'm not sure so i was hoping for some verification and perhaps explaination. i will describe the markings below and try to insert a picture. if it is Dutch, why would it be done like a french gun? is this a gun made during Napoleon's days?

the main mark in question is a crown with VA under it. i hear that that stands for Vaabenarsenalet. if so can anyone tell me how old this marking may be? i think the other marks are for the military rack: TC 82 and another odd mark that looks like a C above an LO within an oval.

i have a picture if anyone can tell me how to insert it on here. i would also be interested in the value of this gun so if i can find out who made it i will send out more pictures to give you an idea of the condition. it looks to me like an interesting project.
thanks
sam
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  • rufe-snow
    I have a reference that shows your proof mark ( Crown over VA ), to be from Denmark rather then from Holland. It suppose to mean "HAERENS VAABENARSENALET".
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  • albatrosdva
    can this gun be dated my this marking or is it a general mark that has been used forever? Is there any kind of market for Danish flintlocks? they want $400. I think it is worth it but i'm not sure. i can send pics to anyone willing to help me.

    quote:Originally posted by rufe-snow
    I have a reference that shows your proof mark ( Crown over VA ), to be from Denmark rather then from Holland. It suppose to mean "HAERENS VAABENARSENALET".
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  • rufe-snow
    Can't say what the value is? Are you buying it for your collection, or resale?
    So called "Dane Guns" were made and used as trade guns for sale to the natives in Africa and elsewhere, whose colonial masters didn't want them to have modern, i.e. rifles/shotguns that fired fixed cartridges. Probably as late as the first quarter of the 20th century.
    From a previous thread, I understand many of these trade muskets had back-action locks. Obviously this would indicate your musket is of 19th century orgin, rather then 18th.
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  • captkirk3@dslextreme.com
    Send me a photo...Let me see what I can dig up in the Database and in the libruary...........

    Captain Kirk, Tech Staff
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  • rhmc24
    I have a lot of reference material on French muskets from the 1717 till the end of the flint period. If you can send me a picture I will try to ID it for you, at least which model the Danes copied. In the Napoleonic period the French military was widely copied by/for/against the French. After the flint period many of the arms were converted to perc and some found their way into CSA hands in our Civil War. Later they were seen as trade guns(as others have said) in various colonial uses. In the late 1930s Stoeger's catalog carried several flint muskets made in then-modern times, some with back-action flint locks, a type which was never seen in the original flint period.
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