416 Rem mag / 416 Rigby
Ok fellas, I am thinking on moving up to alittle more horse power. I have been thinking of a purchase of a 375 H&H for some time now, but then the 416 Rigby caught my attention as well as the 416 Rem Mag. I have the lower end set with the 7mm Rem Mag and a 300 Win Mag but want to make the step up to a heavier cal. What I am looking for is experiences with these two rounds good and or bad. Use of the rifle will be for a hunt in AK for big Browns. If anyone has experience with the 375 RUM I would appreciate feed back on that as well.
Thanks DD2B
Thanks DD2B
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You would be much better off with the 375 H&H. Ammo will be available in just about every Mom&Pop store around. I have taken grizzly bear with the 416 Rigby. The Rigby and Remington are loaded to about the same velocities in factory ammo. Handloads is where the Rigby starts to get ahead of the Remington. The Rigby can be loaded to within 100 FPS or a little less than the 416 WBY. The 375 RUM is so new on the market that ammunition is not available even in some places up here. I just ordered one for a customer but he will be handloading it. It will launch a 270 grain bullet a couple hundred FPS faster than the good old 375 H&H. Take the 375 H&H and you won't be dissatisfied with it. Have owned several rifles chambered for it.
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Aglore, I have read many of your posts and do appreciate your reply. That is the main reason that I was considering the 375 H&H in the first place. It has been around for a long time and has been proven and the ammo is around. It is just that when looking at the impact of the 416's, MAN !!! it looks impressive. I do reload, but have not worked with anything the size of the 416. I did not realize that the Rigby could be pushed that close to the Weatherby. How hard is it to find factory ammo for the 416 Rig and Rem up there? What about price?
Thanks again DD2B0 -
416 Rigby ammo is right in the $100 a box price range if you can find any and the 416 Remington will run about $55 or so. I handloaded my Rigby with 325 grain x bullets.
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aglore@gci.net0 -
Aglore, Thanks again... 0 -
I've had both, a Sako 416 rem. and a Dakota 416 Rigby. The Remington had a sharper recoil. Neither were plinkers. I never bought any factory ammo for them, always handloaded. Rigby cases were expensive when compared to the Rem. I bought. 0 -
I RECENTLY BUILT A .416 REM. FOR A CUSTOMER GOING TO AFRICA, HIS P.H. SAID .416 REM. AMMO WAS MORE READILY AVAILABLE (THAN THE .416 RIGBY) THERE. LIKE ALGORE SAID THOUGH THE .375 H&H IS PROVEN AND AMMO IS AVAIABLE ALMOST ANYWERE. 0 -
What about the .338 Win Mag? Is it as available as the .375 H&H?
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It makes alot of sense to go with the 375. It is proven, and ammo is not that spendy reguardless of it being factory or reload. It will do the job that I want it for, browns, and then some. But for some god foresaken reason I do want a rifle over 40 cal and I think it will be the 416 rem. I guess I will just hae to get the 375 first, then get the 416 later. Thanks alot for the posts !!!!! 0 -
DD2B;
All the calibers you mention will do the job you require of them.
The Rigby will cost you a bit more for ammo, but, not that much.
Thanks to my Grand dad, I own a dozen old doubles and bolt actions in the big game calibers. For convience and availability of ammo the .375 H&H is the gun to buy. It will handily dispatch ANY critter you will encounter anywhere in North America, period. If you have not fired these calibers before, you may find the recoil of some of them extreme. My advise is to pick a rifle that is robust in wieght and a bit muzzle heavy. The weight of the rifle will help tame recoil levels,as will a good compensator/muzzlebrake. These calibers are'nt plinkers, on the other hand, they ar'ent shoulder busters either if properly handled. I think you will enjoy the .375H&H greatly. As mentioned the .338 is a good round, but to my mind has more felt recoil than the .375H&H. As I said earlier the .375H&H will stop and drop ANY critter you care to hunt. It has a proven record around the world. It is a perferred caliber in Africa for dangerous game.
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Python, I am not jealous of the way you received your dbls, but I kinda wish my dad or grand dad would have been into the heavier cals. I know that I would be okay using my 300 win mag as well, but I am one of those guys who thinks that you can not have to much stopping power. Espeacialy when hunting big critters that like to bite. Recoil is something that does not bother me to much. I have shot some heavy cals, wouldn't want to bust bottles with them, but they were not that bad. I had been thinking a 375 for some time now, but then the 416's caught my attention. 0
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