remington 30-30

dennis53

June 30, 2003 13:22

I'm considering bidding on a Remington Model 8 semi-auto. These were made in the early 1930's. This may seem like a stupid question, but the caliber is marked as 30-30 remington. Is this the same cartridge as the always available 30-30 winchester? Or is it no longer avialable? Thanks, Dennis

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  rufe-snow

  June 30, 2003 13:52

  The Remington Model 8 Rifle is chambered for the .30 Remington Cartridge, this is NOT the same cartridge as the 30-30 Winchester. Scrounger has the .30 Remington for sale on his site for $27 & change a box of 20, kind of spendy!
  
  
  
  http://www.ows-ammunition.com/cgi-bin/store/store.cgi

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  dennis53

  June 30, 2003 14:05

  Thank you for the reply. The gun for sale is on auction #9875228. The bolt in the photo clearly shows 30-30 REM. . . and not .30 Rem. Could it have been re-chambered?
  
  It seems the .30 rem must use less powder than the 30-30 win since the muzzle energies are less. Was there ever a 30-30 rem?
  
  Thanks again, Dennis

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  rufe-snow

  June 30, 2003 14:29

  To the best of my knowledge ( I'm not a ammo expert ). There has never been a 30-30 Remington Cartridge. Perhaps Remington marked the bolts 30-30 Remington for marketing purposes?
  The 30-30 Winchester is a rimmed cartridge, whereas the .30 Remington is rimless. There is a difference of over .080 in their rim dimensions, because of this. I don't believe there's any way a Model 8 Remington, could be made to function as a semiautomatic with 30-30 Winchester Ammo.

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  Hardrada55

  June 30, 2003 14:45

  .30-30 Remington was an early designation for the .30 Remington cartridge. .30-30 Winchester will not work in a Remington Model 8 chambered for .30-30 Remington. Remington also called it's .25 Remington cartridge .25-35 Remington for a while. The Stevens 425 "Hi-Power" lever action rifle made 1910-1915 was chambered for the .30 Remington, but they are always seen marked as chambered for ".30-30" and never for .30 Remington.

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  dennis53

  June 30, 2003 17:02

  Thanks for the great info!
  Dennis

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  Tailgunner1954

  July 01, 2003 03:25

  As noted above 30-30Rem is the same as the 30Rem.
  Also note that the 30WCF is the same as the 30-30Win.
  
  Picture the poor guy that stopped to get ammo (for his Mod 8) on the way to deer camp "I need a box of 30-30 Remingtons" and found that what he had was a box of Remington brand 30-30Win when he got there.
  

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  Some guys like a mag full of lead, I still prefer one round to the head.

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  ATF

  July 02, 2003 08:25

  Also,you can reload .30 Rem. with 30/30 Win reloading dies .My Lyman Handloading manual shows both as being the same load.You will need a different shell holder.
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  ATF<P><br>

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