Need help on selecting a varmint gun
Hello all, I am tring to buy the right gun the first time around and wanted some help from the experts. I am looking for a varmint gun to hunt prairie dog, ground hog, and coyote. I have been looking at getting a custom gun built by Dan Kinneman...A Ultimate varmint rifle. Stolle kodiak action, jewell trigger, hart select match grade barrel, and a mcmillan hunter competition stock in the 22-250. I would like to know if this is the gun I should get and if I should get it in a single shot bolt action or a bolt action that has a clip with 4 or 5 shots? Dan has told me that a single shot bolt action is more accurate than a repeat bolt. Is one shot worth the accurace vs. the hassle of reloading one bullet at a time?
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Welcome 1 smokin to GB. If that combo with a clip can't shoot one holers @ 100 then I'd find another smith to build me a weapon. and I believe if I was building up a custom I'd want something in the 6-mm catagory for a little higher BC for those 600 yd + shots. 0 -
1smokingun: GPWEAPON is right. But if your not wanting to spend a couple of thousand dollars on rifle without a scope, Id suggest going with a Remington 700. They have several to choose from. The VSL does offer one in 6mm Remington. The 700 VSSF which is top of the line offers three 223, 22-250, and 220 swift, which is the fastest and flatest shooting of the three. My personal choice would be the 22-250 if you do not reload, as there are many different combinations of bullets and weights out there for this round. If you reload then go for the 220 swift. I reload, and I still choose the 22-250.
6mm Rem. will do a lot more than the 22-250 and 220 swift and can be loaded with bullets from 55 gr. all the way up to 107gr., but you will not find anything but 100 gr. rounds on the shelf. So if you go with the 6mm Rem. you will need to start reloading in a very short time to achieve its potential.
Model 700s are one of the best out of the box for accuracy, many shoot under 1/2 inch groups at 100 yards.
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PEACE THROUGH SUPERIOR FIREPOWER0 -
agreed as above stated. 6mm rules. i have a hart barrel on my 6mm with a remington action grouping 3/8 at 225 yards. seems like your building a high dollar weapon. i think your trying to pull the stagecoach b4 you have the horse. you need to decide on caliber, and your intent with the weapon b4 adding all the bells & whistles. its nice to have the best of everything but sometimes simplicity is the key[;)] my 2 cents 0 -
There are soooo many to choose from. Some swear by the 2506 the 6mm is a good choice. If you want a multi pourpose rifle the .223 and get a AR race rifle built. I have found that the AR series rifles do a very good job on varmints. My 2 cents [8D]
Greg0 -
I have a Ruger M77 in .243 caliber.
I have used Remington 80 grain HP for years on groundhogs with decent sucess. I would guess moving to a 100 grain on the same make and style would do well on coyotes. I am well pleased with the Ruger as it has had 3000+ round blasted through it and still pops them on a 1 1/2" to 2" diameter from 100 yards.0 -
Would a Remington 700 VLS with a 26" heavy barrel in .308 Winchester fill the bill? That's what I've got, and I was told I'd picked a nice, versatile target/hunting rifle. I'm thinking, however, of replacing the factory trigger with a "target trigger" if I can scrape up the money, since there's been some opinions expressed here that the Remington factory triggers are not well-suited to target-shooting.... 0 -
Actually anything from 22 hornet to 25-06 would be great. I would try to stay away from the non-popular rounds though (just for easy of procurement). I also agree with the choice of a Rem 700, although you may have to spend "extra" money to fine tune the accuracy. Out of the box my 700 shot a group of about 1 1/2" @ 100 yd.s ...not to great for varmint hunting. But I got mine tighten up to 1/2" @ 100 yd.s, after some semi major tuning ...just the luck of the draw, I've seen some shoot 1/2" groups out of the box!! As far as multi-shoot capability, the fun (for me ...and alot of others) is shot placement at extreme ranges! ...quick follow up shooting looses alot in shot placement. Well that's my 2 cents! Good Luck on your project!!! ...Mark
"FEAR the Goverment, that fears your ARMS"0 -
try the 220 swift
rusty10 -
For the money you are spending. I would go with a Savage, Are Howa. You could get one each in 22-250, 243, And 25-06 and have money left over for at least one good scope.
I have one of each, And they all go less than .625" out of the box.
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Hi,I had a Ruger #1V in 22-250. It shot well (10 shots that a dime could cover up @ 100 yards) As far as reloading it it was never a problem. If I did reload my own shells I would get a 6mm or 243 but since I did not a 22-250 is great, That ruger was sold [8)] and I have it no more the guy that bought it rubbs it in how well it shoots, So I too looking for a replacement 22-250, That's all I know
The eyes of the hunted are on the side of their head,... the eyes of the hunter are on the front. What do you mean that I am not supposed to hunt?0
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